Comment on We’re Gonny Need Another Baw. by wottpi.

    Timtim 21st December 2018 at 15:31

    James Forrest's article was posted on 31st March 2015 at 1:15pm


    It seems to be in reaction to articles (see a selection below) from 30 March 2015 that were a prelude to a programme John Barnes : Sports Life Stories that wasn't shown until 10:00pm on 31 March 2015.


    As such I am still of the opinion that Forrest's blog is a knee jerk reaction to 'defend' Celtic that got the wrong end of the stick.








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    We’re Gonny Need Another Baw.
    Arrests, reverse raffles etc All pish.

    Football is effectively run as a private members club.

    The members of that club can apply any rules they want.

    When the singing or pitch invasions starts the chairman of the club whose fans are behaving in an offending manner simply waves a red flag from the directors box and orders his manager to withdraw his players from the field of play.

    Said Chairman announces on the PA he/she will not allow his players back on the field until the singing / poor behaviour stops, otherwise they will simply forfeit the game.

    Plenty examples of music performers taking such action when their fans get out of order or are in trouble.

    Like I said the other day,  instead on people putting their head in the sand, issuing vacuous statements and blaming others, just own the problem.

    We’re Gonny Need Another Baw.
    Just to recap, the following is from the FA's website.


    Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.

    In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.

    Q5: Why is striking/hitting someone’s head or face (when not challenging for the ball) regarded as violent conduct?

    There has always been an expectation from football that someone who deliberately hits someone on the head or face should be sent off – striking the head or face is potentially very dangerous so unless there is very little force used, this will be a sending-off (RC) as football must discourage this unacceptable behaviour.


    Therefore by motioning his arm towards Kamara's head the ref sees a potential strike to the head/face. So the question re Bachmann last night was the degree of force.

    Yet we know that Morelos kicked McKenna but that was not decreed as being forceful. Similarly Paul McGinn's forearm smash at speed to Cammy Smith's head in the St Mirren v Dundee Utd only warranted a yellow.

    Out of interest, Smith then chops McGinn shortly after the forearm incident in a similar desperate studs up lunge as to Candeias last night and gets a yellow. No punishment for Candeias last night but Garruccio gets sent off for something similar on Sunday.

    As for penalties we know Defoe got one for dropping easily the other week but last night Brophy's actions were swept aside by the official.

    Regardless of the clubs involved the inconsistency across the board is incredible. 


    We’re Gonny Need Another Baw.
    Scottish Football Away Days on Facebook has clip of Bachmanns sending off.


    Given Gordon Smith was waxing lyrical about hating cheats and play acting on Radio Shortbread pre-game, it will be interesting to hear his views on this one. 

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    Accountability via Transparency.
    nawlite 20th June 2019 at 15:27

    I think Gemma Fay was probably implying the problem for goalies is that you are trained for basic shot stopping to 'set' with feet parallel, then you move forward and place the foot at an angle to the side you are seeking to make the save. You then drive off that front foot to dive. This is exactly what Lee Alexander did last night but she went too early

    If you have already committed to one side and left your other foot on the goal line you will struggle to make a save in the opposite direction.


    If you watch the retaken penalty from last night  you will see how Alexander's feet all get caught up as she tries to step while keeping one foot on the line.


    The view from the 'net cam' shows what I mean.



    Accountability via Transparency.
    Agree with all the comments re the Ref should be the one calling on VAR to provide clarification if unsure / undecided for an agreed set of laws/offenses.

    The VAR, as it appeared last night, should not be telling the Ref they missed something as the game is in progress.

    However players and coaches have themselves to blame.

    Goalkeepers coming off the line at penalties, yards stolen at throw-ins the inability to place a ball on a penalty spot or within the corner arc, play acting, going down softly etc etc  all combine to have the authorities reviewing what can be done to make the game more honest.

    Technology now allows such behaviour to be fully analysed and thus we get, in some ways,  the game we deserve.

    Accountability via Transparency.
    So if I understand the reports from our own John Clark and elsewhere :-

    T'Rangers appear to have entered into a contract with Memorial Walls to provide some form of memorial and place of reflection for fans and one of the themes within the design was to be the Ibrox Disaster.

    A contract appears to have been signed and in terms of the sums being mentioned in damages the works may have had a value of £6.4m or more. However the Memorial Walls people are happy to settle for £1m to presumably cover the costs incurred in preparing their bid and initial works undertaken after the contract was signed. I would suspect in that sum there will be an allowance made for items such as hiring additional resources or maybe turning down other work on the basis they T'Rangers contract gave them a full order book.

    At some point after the contract was signed it could be the case John Greig has said something along the lines of 'this is a load of rubbish and we shouldn't really go ahead and have a rethink'. however that is unclear. But what is known is someone at Ibrox definitely pulled the plug after they had put pen to paper.

    The question is why pull the plug?

    Or another question is, if you are living hand to mouth, why sign up for a multi-million pound project that should really be low down on your list of priorities.

    Accountability via Transparency.
    Ex Ludo 19th June 2019 at 08:42

    A nice and rational summing up of the Turnbull situation.

    We have seen many a young gifted midfielder warm the Parkhead bench or be placed on constant loan, but never to be seen in the Hoops again.

    If not for injuries many folk thought the same fate awaited Ryan Christie but the lad he took his chance last season and managed to make a mark on the team with some great performances.

    However, while Celtic as a club have a lot to offer in terms of the potential to win domestic trophies and the offer of European football, money talks.

    Folk like Phil Mac are constantly reminding everyone and the Celtic fan base that they are in a very strong and stable position with money in the bank. Therefore why are people surprised that agents are wanting to exploit the situation get a decent slice of the cake for their clients?

    It would appear that Norwich have simply been able to offer better personal terms and the lad has made his choice.

    How wise that is we will only find out in years to come as his career pans out. However the reality is, that Phil Mac keeps saying, its almost as if having more money than others gives you a 'sporting advantage' – both in terms of what you can maybe do on the park and how much you can splash out on players.

    As opposed to a gnashing of teeth from some Celtic fans, they should be happy their club has stuck to its guns re its wage structure and, like the rest of us, just accept that sometimes you are going to lose out on signing targets if you want to run a sustainable operation.

    Accountability via Transparency.
    Cluster One 17th June 2019 at 16:14

    Agree with all you say.

    Unless a real sugar daddy comes on board it is a continual hand to mouth existence.

    King and the rest on the board do not have the means to keep throwing good money after bad. 

    However if managed properly and prudently T'Rangers should, given the size of their fan base, be a regular 'second place' in Scottish Football.

    It is however the lack of those reality goggles that will not let them consolidate and build a good foundation for the future and as such they are always going to be in a situation where there is the potential for financial collapse around the every corner.