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    Comment on One, er, Two Rules to Rule Them All by John Clark.

    Cluster One 3rd April 2019 at 06:58

    "..New “Res 12”, website.

    https://www.res12.uk/  

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    Thank you for that important link, Cluster one.

    I have said before that I was not and am not one of the 'Res 12' group, but I am wholeheartedly behind them.

    The authors of this thoroughly researched and excellently drafted and presented account of what the Res12 issue is all about are to be congratulated and applauded. 

    No one reading that account could honestly assert that  there are not major questions to be asked of the behaviour of the now dead RFC , its owners and directors, and of the SFA.

    One can very well understand the anger many people feel at:

    the point blank refusal by the SFA to have the matter fully and independently investigated, and the suspicion that this raises as indicating that they fear what may emerge from an investigation

    the meek acceptance by Celtic plc that  they and their shareholders may have been cheated out of millions, and their readiness to kick a shareholders' AGM-resolution into the long grass rather than insist on a full investigation .

    And one can very well understand why a reference to the COPFS/Police Scotland seeking a police investigation into criminality is being held as a backstop.

    I am quite ready to believe that the apparent success of the dirty work involved in the granting of the UEFA licence to an unentitled club encouraged  black hearts and dishonest minds some years  later to believe, smugly, that they could get away with the utterly disgraceful 5-Way Agreement.

    Scottish Football supporters owe it to themselves to try to save Football in Scotland by getting to the truth. And a thorough reading of   https://www.res12.uk/     will convince them of that fact.

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    One, er, Two Rules to Rule Them All
    finnmccool 2nd April 2019 at 16:49

    '…That is the problem that the SFA created when they failed to censure Gerrard over his referee comments and rescinded Morelos's red card..'

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    The SFA, by cobbling up the 5-Way Agreement to accommodate cheats lost all moral authority, and has  several times been given the finger with impunity by the chairman of RIFC plc. 

    The SFA supped with the devil, and is now seen for what it has become- in  effect, a bent cop, with no moral authority over the baddies they so eagerly aided and abetted and continue to aid and abet in the deceit of the Big Lie.

    (As for BBC Scotland, I wonder whether Chris McLaughlin's recent promotion was the beginning of an attempt to appease TRFC Ltd by discreetly removing McLaughlin from the list of reporters who would be sent to Ibrox , thus giving in to TRFC ?)

     


    One, er, Two Rules to Rule Them All
    paddy malarkey 2nd April 2019 at 16:26

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    The link has this:

    "Rangers: Ryan Kent offered ban for lashing [ my bold]out at Celtic captain Scott Brown

    Rangers' Ryan Kent faces a two-game ban after being charged for shoving [ my italics]Celtic captain Scott Brown.

    Footage showed the winger, 22, lash out at Brown in the aftermath of James Forrest's late winner for the hosts at Celtic Park on Sunday."

    What kind of garbage reporting we are now getting from BBC Scotland!

    There is no way Kent's swing at Brown could be construed as a 'shove' , and it was some crass idiot of a sub-editor who let such a contradictory report leave the keyboard.


    One, er, Two Rules to Rule Them All
    Ex Ludo 2nd April 2019 at 13:44

    '….Can anyone confirm if clubs do actually store banners? It suggests some sort of collusion and a tacit acceptance of unwelcome messages being displayed on the banners.'

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    I have vague memories that Celtic FC some years ago and   for reasons of their own  (relating perhaps to a wish to exercise control of content) might  have offered to store large banners. 

    I don't know whether they actually did, or if so, whether the offer was accepted . 

     


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    Celtic’s Questions to Answer
    bigboab1916 17th November 2019 at 22:15 

    '…Reading this I would be inclined to think if I purchased shares they would be shares in a club established in 1872, surely this is misleading the public, ..'

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    Precisely. 

    And the fact that a query four and a half months ago from a member of the public on the point  has not been replied to kind of suggests, to me at least, that the FCA might have a wee problem.

    If they saw, and see, nothing wrong in their authorisation of the IPO all they have to do is say so, and explain how so to simple minds. 

    Just as the SFA, if they think the award of a UEFA licence to Whyte's 'Rangers' was legitimate, could simply produce the evidence and shut us all up.

    Neither the SFA nor the FCA has taken that course.

    There might be some excuse for the numpties in office as members of the governance bodies of a sport( non-statutory, private companies) 

    There can be no excuses for a body which, charged under statute to ensure that potential investors are not misled by false information given in an IPO prospectus, nevertheless authorises the publication of an untrue and misleading prospectus!

    I speculate that just as the SFA has a problem, so does the FCA.

    Ultimately all due to SDM!

     

     

     

     


    Celtic’s Questions to Answer
    Cluster One 17th November 2019 at 20:31

    '..That got me thinking (I know, i know)
    I have had a look but could only find this.'

    You may be better placed to find the court transcripts better than me.

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    Thank you, Cluster One. The relevant reference is to

    Green v Rangers International Football Club Plc [2017] ScotCS CSOH_90 (22 June 2017)

    This was the judgment in the Green claim (in 2015) to have his trial expenses paid, that was not published until 2017 because at the time of the original hearing the criminal trial was still not concluded.

    I think it was reading that judgment that must have made me , a long time afterwards, think about looking at the IPO prospectus: at the time, I have to say , I scarcely was able to grasp the arguments about whether Green was or was not the CEO of RIFC plc or only the CEO of SevcoScotland /TRFC Ltd  ( and note how Sevco 5088 is mentioned with no indication of why it  is replaced by SevcoScotland!)

    If nothing else that judgment is a comfort to me in that it is clear that other minds were thinking that the IPO Prospectus may have been misleading to potential investors, and not the feverish  fantasy of some Australian-tanned, sculpted-bodied but geriatric arthritic 'Rangers hating' practitioner of natation.

    The link to the judgment is:

    https://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/format.cgi?doc=/scot/cases/ScotCS/2017/[2017]CSOH90.html&query=(charles)+AND+(alexander)+AND+(green)

     

     


    Celtic’s Questions to Answer
    Cluster One 17th November 2019 at 17:42

    '..I wonder if they still have this.'

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    Ha, ha, Cluster One, you can fairly dig out the material!  Your archive material must be worth a small fortune.


    Celtic’s Questions to Answer
    Allyjambo 17th November 2019 at 15:25!..

    '…I'd even open that challenge up to any of the millions of words written by all and sundry about Rangers FC that just might hint, even slightly, to the existence of two Rangers entities prior to the club failing to achieve a CVA in 2012'

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    Ah but.but..but, Aj, we had the omniscient, omnipotent (but now defunct itself) BBC Trust  AND the Advertising Standards Agency ( like they would know!) telling the BBC and the rest of us that there was a dead club and a continuing entity that was not to be referred to as a new club"-silly, deceitful oul' s. ds and s.desses that they were!

    You are absolutely right : the Big Lie simply must be defeated and the truth proclaimed .

     


    Celtic’s Questions to Answer
    Timtim 17th November 2019 at 13:51

    the signature is of Douglas Odam  the finance Director"..

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    That sent me on an enjoyable trawl through Companies House and sundry other interesting bits and pieces more or less loosely related to "Rangers"

    Not the least interesting item ( in a general knowledge kind of way) is that Murray International Holdings which was dissolved following liquidation on 29 January 2016 was restored [under section 1029 of the Companies Act 2006] to the register by Lord Doherty on 21st February 2017 on the petition of one Samantha Thomson 

    link 2OhBbSqE%2FhZq03gVTz51nTGw%3D%3D&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=84a44313391c8658ce9f2a3d49aea030b5f4834ffacf4999942b93126b88ec92

    [ CH entry  " 21 Mar 2017Order of court – dissolution void"]

    It was dissolved again on 27 March 2018.

    Of interest in understanding how the arch-cheat dumped Rangers of 1872 in the proverbial while looking after himself it's worth having a look ( if you haven't already done so previously- (it was new to me) have a read at

    https://www.insider.co.uk/news/revealed-how-murray-international-holdings-10575967

    It makes my broadly socialist head birl to visualise all the (no-doubt perfectly legal ) multiplication of companies  and interlinked deals and swops.