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    Cluster One2nd April 2019 at 21:58  

     

    You give the PR machine too much credit. The chatter about Morelos and Brown will have died our by the end of the week. So it won't be a deflection from the court case.

     

    The poor record Gerrard has will be played up by the PR machine with the assistance of the MSM because they want him to go and that may provide the smokescreen whilst the court case runs but I'm sure there will be other squirrels released round about then.

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    easyJambo2nd April 2019 at 21:33  

    Bogs Dollox 2nd April 2019 at 18:51

    So despite my previous posts condemning the violent conduct of Morelos, Kent etc you can still ask me that question. Poor show on your part but for the avoidance of doubt, of course it's not sufficient provocation. ================================ All good, but why then did you post "……………….. we were discussing regarding Brown's unprofessional and unecessarily provocative behaviour. Why take the ball of the spot?"  My interpretation of what you posted was that you considered Brown was being provocative throughout the game and you linked his taking the ball off the spot as being an example of that. If that is all you meant then I agree with you.

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    Yes that is exactly what I meant. At last. I'm merely pointing out that there are two sides to this. And if you want to grade it in some way then the behaviour of the Rangers players was off the scale compared to Brown.

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    However if you view that Brown's antics justified some sort of a response from Rangers players, then I disagree.  If any of the officials saw Brown's "provocation" as anything other than minor, then I would expect them to take action.

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    That is not my view and that should have been obvious from my previous posts which is why I got annoyed at your accusation. I can only assume you never read them or didn't grasp what I was saying.

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      All I pointed out was that the action of delaying a restart is common-place throughout a game.  Celtic had just scored late in the game. It's hardly a surprise that they would do anything thereafter to slow down the game. The reaction was completely disproportionate to Brown's "provocation". Some players do seek to wind up their opponents and provoke a reaction. It is part of the game, sometimes physical like  an "accidental" elbow in the ribs or standing on a player's foot at a set piece, or it can be verbal like slagging off a wife/girlfriend. There are a couple ways to get even. You can do it physically by perhaps leaving a foot in at the next tackle, or much more effectively by demonstrating that you are a better footballer than them. What you don't do is to retaliate at the time. More often than not you will be one that gets done for it.

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    Yes I agree players resort to the sort of gamesmanship you describe. It doesn't make it acceptable or in fact within the Laws of the game. There is too much of it from the stuff you describe to diving, faking injury etc

    Anyway I'm pleased we have cleared that one up. Let the barrage of thumbs downs commence.


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     easyJambo2nd April 2019 at 18:16   5   0   Rate This Bogs Dollox 2nd April 2019 at 17:10 Jingso.Jimsie2nd April 2019 at 16:46    All of that is utterly irrelevant to what we were discussing regarding Brown's unprofessional and unecessarily provocative behaviour. Why take the ball of the spot?  ================================ I'm certainly no lover of Scott Brown, but are you suggesting that taking the ball of the spot was in some way sufficient provocation for being punched in the face  

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    So despite my previous posts condemning the violent conduct of Morelos, Kent etc you can still ask me that question. Poor show on your part but for the avoidance of doubt, of course it's not sufficient provocation.


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    Finnmccool2nd April 2019 at 16:49   

     

    Your comment that you don't care what Brown merely demonstrates your bias and inability to look at two sides of an incident. At no point btw have I failed to condemn the physical violence of the Rangers players.However, Brown is in no way innocent in all this – he kicked an opponent off the ball! But you choose to ignore that.

     

    Your final comment about me somehow meeting out physical violence to you is childish and deeply insulting and I would like an apology. 

    Are you making the false assumption that I'm a Rangers fan and therefore automatically capable of it. Im not a Rangers fan.

     However, your slur is hardly fair to the many sensible non violent Rangers fans. One of whom came on here recently and made some reasonable points but as usual received a barrel load of thumbs down probably just because he's a Rangers fan.

     

     

     

     


    Recent Comments by Bogs Dollox

    Accountability via Transparency.
    Big Pink 19th June 2019 at 09:45

     

    In football, like everywhere else in the capitalist world, a sale takes place when a commodity is worth more to the buyer than the seller. A football agent’s job is to stimulate the process.
    The Turnbull situation is no different to tens of similar scenarios played out away from the public gaze.
    Turnbull’s labour is probably worth more to others than to Celtic. Nothing unusual there except that the public acceptance of the bid puts pressure on either side.
    The figures being talked about here are (from my information) way over the top – double in fact – but my own advice to any young guy in David Turnbull’s position would be to leave the influence of the the hushed-up sectarianism report, the 5WA, and the pound-shop corruption behind.
    Go to a place where the game is as fair as it can be – and the very best of luck to him wherever he goes.

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    Hang on a minute. In the first part of your post you explain how the pricing method within a capitalist market works but further on you are surprisingly able to say "The figures being talked about……. are way over the top".

    It is merely the price the market has set for the services of a largely unproven youngster with enormous potential. Norwich were prepared to pay £25k a week. Celtic could only afford £12k. Such is the way of the capitalist market when buying labour. It may be unaffordable for Celtic but its not "over the top" its simply the market rate that DT is able to realise for the sale of his labour.

    I can understand why you are disappointed Celtic lost DT because as a Motherwell fan I'm also disappointed. That disappointment may be tempered slightly because it appears he may be on loan with us until Xmas before flying off to join the Canaries. That makes sense as it gives him time to get more games under his belt. My understanding is that Celtic weren't able to meet that requirement and it was a factor in DT's decsion.

    Anyways good luck to the lad and I look forward to him being Scotlands best player for a generation.

     


    Accountability via Transparency.
    justbecauseyoureparanoid 14th June 2019 at 13:25

    John Clark 14th June 2019 at 12:53

    I can't say for sure but I believe it was felt that such a move would only serve to play into the hands of those who want to undermine the status of the women's game.

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    If the proposed change was made it would only have taken goals out of the game. Who wants that?

    And if men are taller now than a 100 years ago when the goal size was set. Is there not a case for making them bigger?

    If only there was a tenacious group who were dedicated to questioning authority to improve the game.


    Accountability via Transparency.
    easyJambo4th June 2019 at 13:16

    I see that JJ has been on the case of Club 1872 being diluted by the latest loan conversion wheeze at RIFC. It would help his case, and his calculations, if he had used the share totals following last year's share issue rather than those from the last share issue

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    Thats a pity he was so sure he had got that one right and without a source to blame for the error this time it can only be a matter of time before he resigns and closes his site.


    Accountability via Transparency.
    Wasn't there more than one Ibrox disaster. Was this memorial rembering the deceased of both?


    Accountability via Transparency.
    One for the lawyers. Do Bonnyrigg have any legal case they could pursue.

    Effectively they and the other clubs who lost their bond money have been the subjects of a scam.

    It cannot be acceptable that the rules can be changed retrospectively as it's contrary to natural justice and legal convention.