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While the proposed Judicial Review of the LNS decision is to be welcomed it is a position that is fraught with legal difficulties such as the capacity to raise the proceedings, potential time bars and all sorts of other arguments.

It would be complete folly to base an argument here solely upon a judicial review of LNS as that would only leave one string to the bow.

Further, take the stated opinion or Mr Rod McKenzie that LNS only dealt with the issue of Player Registrations within the SPL/SPFL — and nothing else.

Any analysis of what is meant by that statement (and others made by Neil Doncaster) leads to the conclusion that there are other matters to be considered which were outwith the tight and narrow remit handed to LNS by the SPFL.

For me, the clearest consideration is this.

1. Craig Whyte has already been personally convicted by the SFA for deliberately failing to pay taxes as and when they fall due under article 5.1 of the SFA rules.

2. No such charge has ever been levied against RFC — just against their CEO.

3. Not only did RFC fail to pay taxes as and when they became due under Whyte’s watch, they deliberately failed to pay taxes for a 13 year period under the stewardship of Sir David Murray. They did this by deliberately entering into two unlawful tax aggressive tax avoidance schemes which even their advisers warned them could only be undertaken at considerable risk to the club as the schemes were never guaranteed to be successful.

4. Those schemes were entered into so that the club could buy players they would otherwise not have afforded.

5. In furtherance of those schemes, RFC chose to deliberately withhold the full details of their contractual arrangements with both players and managers from both the SFA and the SPL when submitting their applications to play under licence and in terms of the rules of both organisations.

6. In each of the years concerned, RFC had to apply for both domestic and European Licences to play football, and it is the granting of these licences which allows any football club to play in structured competition organised under the auspices of, or with the approval of, the SFA or UEFA.

7. Each and every licence application as submitted to the SFA in the knowledge that key financial and contractual information had been excluded in furtherance of tax avoidance purposes, and tax, which has since been declared to be legitimately due and payable from 1999 onwards, was unpaid and remains unpaid.

8. The above processes and procedures are no different, and indeed are considerably worse, breaches of article 5.1 under which Whyte was personally convicted and fined.

9. Further, as part of the HMRC investigations into the use of unlawful tax schemes, RFC deliberately lied to HMRC, SFA and SPL about the existence of side letters and other contractual documentation. This is particularly so in relation to the annual application for a playing licence.

On 20th May 2011, HMRC, in relation to one of the tax schemes, wrote to RFC and accused the club of “deliberate and fraudulent” behaviour in relation to the continued submission of false PAYE and NIC returns over a period of years.

10. It, therefore, follows that each and every application for a football licence made by RFC to the SFA from 2000 onwards (at least) was based on falsified financial, contractual and tax information and was designed to mislead the SFA with a view to persuading them to grant a licence on misrepresented grounds.

11. Not only is the above a breach of article 5.1 of the SFA handbook, but any licence obtained by misrepresentation has not been validly obtained as it has been obtained by way of false representation and deception.

12. It is a pre-requisite of entry into any league competition that the participating club holds a valid licence to play football.

13. In the event that a club did not or should not have held/hold a valid licence to play, that same club is not free to enter structured competition or register players to participate in such competition. It also follows that any declaration of a result of 0-3 in relation to any particular game as a result of a rule breach (such as fielding an ineligible player) is of no consequence because the club concerned was not eligible to participate at all.

14. The Court of Arbitration for Sport has already been invited by UEFA to hold that any application for a licence or any other compliance submission, which is devoid of all necessary financial and contractual information should be treated as null and void and as never having been received.

15. The same Court has also held that any title, championship, award, record, reward or other benefit which has been gained as a result of an improper or prohibited process should not be allowed to stand, the records of the award etc should be expunged and the sporting records corrected accordingly.

None of the above is dependent on a successful review of LNS but goes hand in hand with that process.

In the forthcoming review of Scottish Football recently announced by the SPFL, in conjunction with the SFA, all of the above should be under consideration.

LNS, under review, may determine that the players were in fact not eligible, but much more fundamental is the fact that there are clear facts and circumstances which should mean that the club itself was never eligible in terms of established legal jurisprudence.

As had been pointed out by Rod McKenzie, none of this has been considered by the SPFL as all matters concerning a licence are solely under the jurisdiction of the SFA.

Thus far, the SFA have taken no action against RFC or any of its officials as a result of the clubs involvement in, and cover up of, the Big Tax Case or the Wee Tax Case – both of which will be the subject of the forthcoming review demanded by Celtic and others.

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  1. Re: DAFC story.

    It seems that there could be two possible motivations for how this is unravelling ;

    1) It’s a squirrel.  20

    Very quickly of the back of crazy bears’ claims to recognise ‘World War’ league titles being widely reported in the SMSM, we have the current mocking of the this ‘DAFC Conspiracy’.
    From what I have seen so far in the SMSM, the reporting seems to be getting a bit farcical, to perhaps totally p!ss off footy fans, and to encourage them mibbees to just focus on the football, and ‘move on’?

    Who would generate this squirrel, 09 and how could CQN be taken in ?
    Who benefits ?
    Seems a bit far fetched, IMO, as I’m sure CQN must have received info on plenty of other squirrels in recent years.

    2) There is a fundamental truth to the story – but could be difficult to prove ?

    For CQN to be relatively bullish about the story ‘developing’, you would think they must be fairly confident about their sources and quality of the info.
    So, mibbees they are playing that old trick, when you feed just enough rope…

    The SMSM / DR / club[s] / ‘SFA sources’ are publicly ridiculing the story…and then CQN drops the bomb to make them all look foolish – and outright fibbers – in a very public manner ?
    I’m thinking that co-operation from an ex-DAFC player involved in that game – and who has provided a detailed statement – could be the smoking gun ?
     
    Not too sure what to really think, but would have preferred it if we could get the JR position clarified first.

    This DAFC story could have been kept on the back-burner for a while longer – you would think ?
     

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  2. I’m beginning to think that Masterton might be key to unravelling this Gordian knot . Apart from David Murray , who was at the time small-fry , I would imagine that the great and good of the Scottish Establishment would also have benefited from BoS largesse wrt loans and other acts, and are happy that there is no investihation . More to this than football, in my opinion . Who’s in charge of that institution now, and can we ask questions ?

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  3. Good evening
     
    I’ll start with a little story, told my an ex-neighbour or ours in Fife, many years ago.  Bill was a Glaswegian, a south-sider, and used to go and see the Spiders at Hampden.  In those days, the home fans were allowed on the terraces, and Bill had his regular spot, beside another, older guy.  They knew nothing of each other, they just watched the football.  Of course, life moves on, and Bill’s career took him away from Glasgow, first to Fife and then to the North of England.  Trips to the football became rarer and certainly there was no likelihood of travelling back to Glasgow.   Decades passed before one Saturday afternoon Bill found himself at a loose end in the vicinity and took himself along to the old stadium for the first time in years.  He found his old spot on the terracing, and there was his old buddy.  No words were exchanged – no “where have you been all these years?”, no “it’s yourself, how are you?” – they simply nodded at each other, and watched the football.
     
    I used to be an avid reader of this site (and its predecessor).  I logged in every day (often more than once), I once attended a Tax Tribunal where I had the pleasure of meeting a couple of posters (Finloch, and John Clark before he lost his “e”, I think).  I even posted on occasion, though sometimes my views seemed unwelcome.  However, I got bored, looked at the site less and less, and eventually drifted away.  I don’t think I had been on for years until yesterday.  If you don’t mind me saying, little seems to have changed. 
     
    This morning I wondered if I would wake up to nuclear war.  Yesterday, I woke up to something more apocalyptic – allegations of match-fixing, and thinly (very) veiled accusations against my own club, the Pars.
     
    I remember the dark days, before administration, during and after.  Sometimes it was like a car-crash in slow motion.  You knew what was coming, but you were powerless to do anything about it.  I remember long, solitary walks wondering if I would still have a club to support, and what I would do then.  After 40 odd years, their absence would leave an enormous gap in my life.   It was like an impending death in the family.  That trip to Kirkcaldy – would that be our last ever game?
     
    But the fans rallied round, raised money, and somehow, some way, managed to save the club.  It wasn’t easy – I attended the EGM where the CVA was agreed and where fans and local businesses willingly wrote off large sums of money.  Others invested even more – money that might have been destined for their retirement or their families went in the pot.  Success wasn’t assured – we were seconds away from death, when Lord Woolman made his judgement.  Oh my, I have tears in my eyes just thinking about it – it was like a match-saving penalty in the 8th minute of stoppage time.  (And to answer the question – did we ever consider going down the liquidation  route?  No, not for a second.  If we were liquidated, that was it.  No way would we be afforded the same latitude as others.  Maybe a new club would be started – maybe in the juniors, maybe the East of Scotland league – maybe not.)
     
    We survived.  But we never forget that we spent money we did not have, and taxes due went unpaid.  Now I know all businesses live on credit at some point, and that cash flow issues have caused many a good business to fold.  Where do you draw the line between bad luck, bad management, bad advice and bad faith?  I’m not going to attempt to answer that now, but I know that there is a strong feeling that our behaviour was disgraceful, and shameful, and embarrassing.  We should never forget that.
     
    The new board adopted a policy of not commenting on the affairs of other clubs, and I respect that.  They wish to keep a relatively low profile and concentrate on their club.  Don’t forget that many will have other lives to lead and families and other businesses that are being neglected as they devote their time to putting the club back on a stable footing.  We are only part way along the road to redemption.  And their policy is not a new policy, by the way; two or three years ago I asked the previous chairman if they believed they should get more involved in the governing bodies and received a consistent answer.
     
    Yesterday I wanted my club to make a statement,  Ross McArthur did that on its behalf.  (By the way, no need for an apostrophe in “its” there).  I do not believe he equated our problems with those of others, but merely drew parallels.  He explained the board’s position, explained the background to his statement and attempted to rebut some of the more lurid allegations that saw light (again) yesterday.  I think that is a satisfactory and welcome response and what I was looking for.   Some other responses to his statement have been out of order however, and cannot be helpful.

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  4. The Hamilton Accies V Aberdeen job is a little bit more Difficult.  Hamilton’s development of youth players id very commendable.  BUT…. I played in the Beach Ballroom below Pittodrie and I feel connected.  C’mon the Sheep!

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  5. Rangers V Dumfermline, what can I say?  After all the allegations of match fixings, I hope it is a noscore draw and the ref is sent off for match fixing.04

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  6. Finally, Ross County  V Mudderwell.  ( My Lanarkshire buddies!)

    But really Ross County what do you bring to the game? Weather?

    No Thanks! Ya big teuchtars.

    Jimbo, with love

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  7. UPTHEHOOPSAUGUST 9, 2017 at 18:45       7 Votes 
    Does anyone know if Doncaster has actually met with any fans groups yet like he promised to do?
    ———————-
    I’m still waiting on the date for independent review concerning the way in which Scottish football’s authorities have dealt with non-payment of tax by clubs.
    Oh! And what punishment was given to the ibrox club for fan running onto pitch and objects thrown at celtic players at the TRFC v celtic game at ibrox last season.
    Maybe they have still to arrange a meeting to have a meeting

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  8. I’m a regular reader of this site and occasionally comment.  I’m a Pars fan.

    Ross McArthur is a Pars fan, as are all of the people on the board of Dunfermline Athletic.  Almost all of the people working at the club are volunteers.  The club is run as a Community Interest Company and lives within its means.  The current set up at Dunfermline Athletic could well be the ideal set up for provincial clubs in Scotland.  When Dunfermline Athletic nearly died, I donated all of my life savings (a fairly small amount) to help to keep the club alive.

    I would like Ross and the club to be more vocal about governance of the game.  However, I totally understand their decision to focus on getting our house in order and keeping it in order.  There was no love lost during the process of wresting control of the club away from Gavin Masterton.  Dunfermline Athletic was hours away from liquidation, but was saved.  Gavin Masterton nearly killed us.

    The statement that Ross made acknowledges that the previous regime brought the game into disrepute by the way in which they ran the club.  Other clubs in Scotland have been close to oblivion.  Some have died.  Not many have been as open about how shameful the actions of their predecessors were.  The Pars have just been beaten 6-0 by a team where the previous board are back in charge of a new club.  The contrast between the two clubs could not be clearer.

    When you parse the statement made by Ross, please look at it from the perspective of a fan who fought to keep his club alive and is now working tirelessly, on a voluntary basis, to rebuild its reputation through actions and not words.  Dunfermline Athletic is solvent and fan funded, with fans involved in the decision making at all levels.  This is still the very beginning of the story of the rehabilitation of Dunfermline Athletic, but it’s a story that’s worth a look, if you believe that the future of the game in Scotland needs to have fans at the centre.

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  9. Two posts on one night.  Suddenly I’m prolific!

    I noticed that “Five men have appeared in court to face criminal charges relating to the deaths of 96 people at Hillsborough, more than 28 years after the disaster.”

    A lesson in the value of persistence in the face of dishonesty, corruption and establishment cover ups.

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  10. Over 10yrs ago I was a street hawker, selling fish from a van. I used to sell fish to a guy in a quiet wee Fife village just outside of Dunfermline. He told me at that time that a certain Mr Masterton would be the architect of DAFC’s destruction. At the time I was reliant upon the normal media channels (‘MSM’ is a term that irks me) and had no idea how to look for my own information (if blogs were even available then?). But this guy was passionate and he knew, even back then that Masterton was a ne’er do well.
    On a different day (actually two days a week), in a completely different part of Fife, I would see a die-hard Rangers fan. He was ‘in the know’ and always had exclusives and a lot of his narratives turned out to be amazingly accurate. I’ve wondered a few times in the last couple of years whether he continued his affection onto Sevco, but comfort myself in not having the van anymore as more likely than not he will be a continuationist and that would have led to unbelievable conflict. Back to my point on this guy, he told me way back when that Jimmy Calderwood would be the Rangers manager as that was why he was brought back from Holland. 
    To be truthful, the way I remember it, it seemed every man and his dug knew that Calderwood was brought back to Scotland as a step towards Ibrox. However, when I asked the question of a man closer to the Ibrox action than most as to the reasons for this being a false dawn, the response I got was along the lines of ‘have you seen the perma-tanned idiot on the TV?’ It seemed his grasp and mangling of the English language did for him for the Ibrox hotseat.

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  11. Whilst reading about the pars i found this wee story interesting

    “Playing career Ian McCall was born in Dumfries, Scotland. In his boyhood, he was a regular on the Palmerston terraces watching Queen of the South. His hopes of playing for his home town club were dashed, though, by then chairman Willie Harkness.Managerial careerHis spell at Clydebank took place against the backdrop of an abortive scheme to relocate the club to Dublin.
    In 17 games in charge at Morton, McCall achieved five wins and 9 defeats.
    This was followed by a move to Airdrieonians. Airdrie challenged for promotion to the Scottish Premier League before the club’s extinction in 2002, making McCall the last manager in the club’s history. McCall won 23 of his 65 games in charge.”

    Airdrie extinction and clubs history…did Airdrie not have an engine room?

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  12. HomunculusAugust 9, 2017 at 12:56 
    ” I do not know anything about what happened to Dunfermline with regards their administration, however in a general sense the important thing about exiting administration via a CVA is that it can only be done with the agreement of the people you owe the money to. They might not like it but they can either accept it or reject it. 

    As i understand it in business the reason your creditors are allowed to hit you with a winding up order is that you will not be in business again using that name and you will definetly be barred from being a director for a considerable period of time. What happened to Dunfermline and hearts and Livingston and others was they exited without been wound up, Rangers did not and you cannot buy from a winding up order history, you can buy assetts and trinkets but the name and business goes to protect the creditors been laughed at, humiliated or totally ripped off with no recourse. Rangers died and Dunfermline and others did not, in my earlier post Airdrie died killed by creditors, David Murray, ironic aint it.

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  13. I don’t have anything on Calderwood’s potential move to Rangers or the corruption that (may have) supported that, though ‘perma-tanned idiot’ is a good one. My own personal experience is just that he was an a*se.
    My son played under-10s through under-12s for the Norrie McCathies, a team set up and managed by ex-DAFC player Graeme Robertson in memory of the deceased club captain. When Jim Leishman was manager at DAFC, he was a strong supporter of the boys as he knew and worked with Graeme (Graeme still called him Gaffer).
    Calderwood had no interest whatsoever. Only once did Graeme get him to do something – he attended the boys’ Christmas party one year (held at East End park, so no big hardship!) and handed presents to each boy (provided by parents, not DAFC, just to be clear). Calderwood struggled even to smile and say Merry Christmas. Graeme then asked him to give a short speech to the boys – you know the “You’re doing well. Stick in, work hard and some of you might make it” sort of meaningless nonsense. In front of those boys and parents, Calderwood out loud refused to say anything to encourage those boys to do their best and push themselves for the sport they loved.
    I never rated him after that.

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  14. With Jimmy Calderwood being such an inarticulate, over-tanned, buffoon, I wondered why it was that he got so many TV gigs, it’s not as though his team was Rangers14, like so many of the current mob of ‘Rangers protectionists’ that the BBC, in particular, think we should all listen to and allow to help form the narrative of Scottish football.

    Having read Causaludeni’s earlier post, it may well be that his sinecure with the media was at the behest (rather like the ‘recommendation’ that got Calderwood his Dunfermline gig) of his prospective employer in Govan. An extension, perhaps, of his managerial audition to ensure he was able to handle the media side of the ‘biggest job in football’!

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  15. Assertive headline in today’s DR;

    “I’ll make Rangers a selling club reveals new Ibrox director of football Mark Allen.”

    Erm…has nobody told him that TRFC is already a selling club…?  15

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  16. Was the Arsenal shares that belonged to the Rangers Football Club 1873 purchased in the assetts sale from the company or the club. Known fact EUFA does not allow a club to have shares in another club although a company may have shares if it is a company like Sports Direct was.
    EUFA allowed this club Rangers to have shares in another club Arsenal because they were purchased and some given later as a thank you and done as a goodwill gesture, but the shares nevertheless belonged to the club or EUFA would have no objection and SFA would not have had to let EUFA know of the arrangement.
    So when Rangers were liquidated did Charles Green get to buy the shares and if so how can this be possible if the claim is made of two entities, the shares belonged to Rangers Football Club, so who owns the shares. Rangers Football Club 1873 incorporated and liquidated 2012.

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    McCaig`s TowerAugust 9, 2017 at 19:23  
    Good evening I’ll start with a little story, told my an ex-neighbour or ours in Fife, many years ago.  Bill was a Glaswegian, a south-sider, and used to go and see the Spiders at Hampden.  In those days, the home fans were allowed on the terraces, and Bill had his regular spot, beside another, older guy.  They knew nothing of each other, they just watched the football.  Of course, life moves on, and Bill’s career took him away from Glasgow, first to Fife and then to the North of England.  Trips to the football became rarer and certainly there was no likelihood of travelling back to Glasgow.   Decades passed before one Saturday afternoon Bill found himself at a loose end in the vicinity and took himself along to the old stadium for the first time in years.  He found his old spot on the terracing, and there was his old buddy.  No words were exchanged – no “where have you been all these years?”, no “it’s yourself, how are you?” – they simply nodded at each other, and watched the football. I used to be an avid reader of this site (and its predecessor).  I logged in every day (often more than once), I once attended a Tax Tribunal where I had the pleasure of meeting a couple of posters (Finloch, and John Clark before he lost his “e”, I think).  I even posted on occasion, though sometimes my views seemed unwelcome.  However, I got bored, looked at the site less and less, and eventually drifted away.  I don’t think I had been on for years until yesterday.  If you don’t mind me saying, little seems to have changed.  This morning I wondered if I would wake up to nuclear war.  Yesterday, I woke up to something more apocalyptic – allegations of match-fixing, and thinly (very) veiled accusations against my own club, the Pars. I remember the dark days, before administration, during and after.  Sometimes it was like a car-crash in slow motion.  You knew what was coming, but you were powerless to do anything about it.  I remember long, solitary walks wondering if I would still have a club to support, and what I would do then.  After 40 odd years, their absence would leave an enormous gap in my life.   It was like an impending death in the family.  That trip to Kirkcaldy – would that be our last ever game? But the fans rallied round, raised money, and somehow, some way, managed to save the club.  It wasn’t easy – I attended the EGM where the CVA was agreed and where fans and local businesses willingly wrote off large sums of money.  Others invested even more – money that might have been destined for their retirement or their families went in the pot.  Success wasn’t assured – we were seconds away from death, when Lord Woolman made his judgement.  Oh my, I have tears in my eyes just thinking about it – it was like a match-saving penalty in the 8th minute of stoppage time.  (And to answer the question – did we ever consider going down the liquidation  route?  No, not for a second.  If we were liquidated, that was it.  No way would we be afforded the same latitude as others.  Maybe a new club would be started – maybe in the juniors, maybe the East of Scotland league – maybe not.) We survived.  But we never forget that we spent money we did not have, and taxes due went unpaid.  Now I know all businesses live on credit at some point, and that cash flow issues have caused many a good business to fold.  Where do you draw the line between bad luck, bad management, bad advice and bad faith?  I’m not going to attempt to answer that now, but I know that there is a strong feeling that our behaviour was disgraceful, and shameful, and embarrassing.  We should never forget that. The new board adopted a policy of not commenting on the affairs of other clubs, and I respect that.  They wish to keep a relatively low profile and concentrate on their club.  Don’t forget that many will have other lives to lead and families and other businesses that are being neglected as they devote their time to putting the club back on a stable footing.  We are only part way along the road to redemption.  And their policy is not a new policy, by the way; two or three years ago I asked the previous chairman if they believed they should get more involved in the governing bodies and received a consistent answer. Yesterday I wanted my club to make a statement,  Ross McArthur did that on its behalf.  (By the way, no need for an apostrophe in “its” there).  I do not believe he equated our problems with those of others, but merely drew parallels.  He explained the board’s position, explained the background to his statement and attempted to rebut some of the more lurid allegations that saw light (again) yesterday.  I think that is a satisfactory and welcome response and what I was looking for.   Some other responses to his statement have been out of order however, and cannot be helpful.
    __________________________

    Hi MT, 

    Nice to see you back posting with such a well constructed post in defence of your club’s chairman. 

    I have to admit to being one of his statement’s biggest critics, not because I disagreed with him defending the conspiracy claims aimed at his club, but because he seemed to be comparing the Rangers Tax Case with his club’s own fall into administration.

    If we ignore Masterton’s connections to Murray, and at this stage we cannot know for sure how dodgy they may, or may not, have been, and look only at the two clubs’ fall from grace into insolvency, we can see how Ross McArthur can be justified in saying his club should not comment on the other’s profligacy, or matters surrounding what caused Rangers own particular demise; but, by mentioning the Rangers Tax Case, then moving seamlessly into DAFC’s insolvency, he seemed to conflate the two.

    On re-reading, however, I can see that he, perhaps, didn’t mean that, though could have made it clearer that he was (I presume) only meaning that his club wasn’t in a position to comment, critically, on any other club’s failings/shameful actions. In fact, I think it was a mistake to even mention the ‘Rangers Tax Case’, at all, and he’d have served his club, and more importantly, the supporters, better by sticking to the recent accusations (something I think the ‘club’ itself would be innocent of, even if there were any shenanigans between the three men at the centre of the claims, for, if anything has gone on, such as match fixing, Dunfermline AFC would have been victims too – at least in my opinion).

    One last thing, MT. We, or rather our clubs, share a rather unwelcome bond of shame, one we have to accept as the cost of striving for an unachievable success, but we, and our clubs, should never use that as an excuse to renege on our duty to call out those who would commit far greater wrongs, indeed lawbreaking! If our clubs cannot call such wrongdoers out, then I think silence would be better than offering succour to those wrongdoers with statements equating failure with unlawful acts!

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  18. Extract from DR / Darren Cooney piece today about how money was ruining football.
    [My highlighting.]

    “…
    The greed machines of UEFA and FIFA must act. That may well be a fanciful notion given the latter awarded a World Cup to Qatar, a state that has appalling human rights. And all in the name of the mighty dollar.
    But football’s governing bodies have a duty to act or the game will be a bogey.
    Try broadcasting that on Sky.”
    ==============================

    An SMSM sports ‘journalist’ demanding action – from others – to protect the game ?!

    And by “governing bodies” I presume he means “except the SFA and SPFL”

    222222

     

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  19. ALLYJAMBOAUGUST 10, 2017 at 15:58

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    For me the worst part of the Dunfermline Chairman’s statement was the almost apologetic tone he adopted towards the Rangers board, and how he would ‘explain’ things to them. From his statement he clearly believes his own football club not paying its bills and taxes is something to be ashamed of. Why then even bother with men who have yet to show any signs of shame over the financial carnage their club inflicted on society.  

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  20. Reserve Goalies.

    I’ve often thought what it must be like for a professional player to sit on the bench for weeks on end.  I know they get paid wages I could only dream of.  But on many courses I have been on, when asked, what is the satisfaction from your job, it’s rarely money.
    I thought this was touching from Logan Bailly – but it applies to a lot of goalies:

    “He said: “I knew from the off it wouldn’t be easy. To be a regular over there, it was a big challenge, and I’m the one who wanted it.. When you receive an offer from a club like Celtic, obviously you don’t hesitate, and I didn’t.“That, no one can take it away from me. Few footballers can say they spent two years in that kind of club, winning trophies along the way. Until my dying day, I will be happy to have been there. Even when you’re not on the pitch, Celtic remains a brand known around the world.”
    Describing his two years with Celtic in Glasgow as ‘incredible’, Bailly loved every bit of his time there, and won’t let anyone take his medals away from him, even if he didn’t play all that much: “We win together and we lose together.”

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  21. Now to get to the point.!

    SFM reserve Goalies:

    Auldheid – 1 star
    Easy Jambo – 2 stars
    John Clark(e) – 3 stars.

    Btw, this is on fitness skills omly, not literreary competence.

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  22. I love Alan Archibald’s words:
    “He added: “So we need to make sure we are at our best and we are aggressive in the right way, that’s making tackles not being silly but making sure we don’t stand off them too much and play our own game”

    Hope that is how the Jags play it.  Seeing as at is them, I’ll settle for to beat them with a single goal.  7.45pm

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  23. McCaig`s TowerAugust 9, 2017 at 19:23
    ‘….I once attended a Tax Tribunal where I had the pleasure of meeting a couple of posters (Finloch, and John Clark before he lost his “e”, I think).’.
    ___________
    So you did, McCaig’s Tower, and I well remember the occasion. (There were one or two other SFM posters-I think Aj might have been one?)

    And I see from Aj’s post this afternoon[ Allyjambo August 10, 2017 at 15:58 ] that he says what I was going to say late last night but got diverted by a famiy matter:

    a) that was a superb post of yours and reading it was quite an emotional experience, and actually drove home to me the real damage done by SDM’s cheating, in that it will be a long time before we can learn to trust out football administrators again

    b) that McArthur’s statement would have been fine as a defence of his own club, against not so much actual allegations as mere insinuations of misdeeds done by a former DAFC board.

    It was his apparent readiness to defend the cheating of RFC that irritated me.
    He seemed to be equating RFC’s ruthless and long-term cheating with the much less serious fault of ‘going into administration’ committed by a former DAFC board

    Indeed, in confessing his shame at the fact that DAFC went into Administration and apologising for that, he seemed also to be saying ” We at DAFC are ashamed, but we have tholed our assizes and are getting things restored, so please let us and Rangers  who, like us, went into Administration, get on with things, and let us all move on ”

    I have no idea why he thought to include that and I was exasperated enough to be provoked into wondering why he felt it necessary to mention them at all particularly as he himself said that his interest is the affairs of DAFC, and not the affairs of other clubs!
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    Not for all the world  would I wish  to cause unwarranted offence to any DAFC supporter by getting things wrong, and if I have misinterpreted what McArthur was trying to say, I am heartily sorry for it.

    But maybe he should get someone to read over his ‘statements’ with the degree of care that the statement of any club these days gets read with.

    Maybe see you  at a  Judicial Review………?

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  24. ALMOST two thirds of football fans believe the sport is corrupt, with more than half believing it to be riddled with cover-ups and scandals.

    According to a Populus survey commissioned by Portland, football was labelled the least trustworthy of 12 sports on issues such as match-fixing, doping, and financial corruption.

    Football scored the worst of the dozen sports included in the survey with 62% of fans believing the sport is involved in financial corruption, 56% of the opinion it is involved in cover-ups and scandal, and two in five football fans (42%) saying they would stop watching football, live or on TV, because of perceived financial corruption in the sport.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/15465142.Survey_finds_football_to_be_least_honest_sport/

    This survey was mentioned on the radio today and although it relates to the UK as a whole, rather than Scotland specifically, it’s a sad indictment on the governance of the game that so many fans believe football to be utterly corrupt. 

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  25. STEVIEBCAUGUST 10, 2017 at 15:10       17 Votes 
    Assertive headline in today’s DR;
    “I’ll make Rangers a selling club reveals new Ibrox director of football Mark Allen.”
    Erm…has nobody told him that TRFC is already a selling club…?  
    ————————
    Nobody told him we heard all this before?
    Rangers Int F.C. PLCBusiness Review and Strategic Plan Update
    RNS Number : 5425FRangers Int. Football Club PLC25 April 2014
    https://www.investegate.co.uk/rangers-int-f-c–plc–rfc-/rns/business-review-and-strategic-plan-update/201404251100045425F/
    Strengthen the Club’s Football Operations – With the creation of the new position of Chief Football Operations Officer, with specific responsibility for developing best in class football operations support. This new role will support the Football Manager and the Board and will concentrate initially on developing player talent identification, scouting and recruitment capability.
    Develop Player Asset Management – Developing playing talent is one of the major challenges at any football club. The Chief Football Operations Officer will also have the remit to develop the Club’s player asset strategy which will build a long term structure and plan to deliver playing talent for the Club and maximize value from player trading

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  26. Earlier this evening as Mrs C and I were having the (the everyday!) discussion about what we should/could/can-what’s in the fridge? have for dinner, an excited voice came over the Radio Scotland airwaves telling us [ I can’t quote the actual words used]  that Peter Lawwell might be on his way to being elected as chairman of the European Club Association(ECA)

    It appears that Karl-Heinz Rummennigge , the current Chairman of the ECA ,is not standing for re-election.

    And the ..seholes at Radio Scotland think that because Lawwell is in there as a representative of Celtic ( Celtic being an ‘ordinary member’ of the ECA) he could conceivably be elected.

    Well, or lawwell, of course he could-as could several dozens of ‘ordinary members’!Including a rep from the other Scottish ‘ordinary member’-Aberdeen!

    Now, I have  great grievance against that Association.

    And I felt constrained to air that grievance, as I sat here. ( comfortably fed: we went for chicken, peppers and onions on creme-fraiched tortillas, with a crust or two of garlic bread, washed down with a nice wee Orvieto Classico- peasant fare, but delicious!!!)

    I aired that grievance by writing to Karl-Heinz Rummennigge.

    This is what I wrote. I will print it out tomorrow, and send it snail mail.


    Mr Karl-Heinz Rummennigge,
    Chairman,
    European Club Association,
    Route de St-Cergus 9
    1260 Nyon,
    Switzerland
     
     
    Dear Mr Rummennigge,
    I learned today that you are not going to stand for re-election as Chairman of the European Club Association (ECA)
    Before you demit office, I feel obliged to remark that under your Chairmanship a great act of sporting deception and dishonesty perpetrated by a national football association was accepted and ‘authorised’ by the ECA.
    This occurred when the Scottish Football Association (SFA) instituted and perpetrated the untruth that a new club,founded in 2012, which they had admitted into membership of the SFA as a new club, was the same club as the club known as Rangers Football Club, founded in 1872.
    You will be aware of the facts, but I will summarise them:
    Rangers Football Club was founded in 1872.
    In more modern times it ran into debt over a number of years.
    In 2011 faced the prospect of a huge tax bill running into many millions of pounds.
    The owner eventually sold the club.
    The new owner ran the club into Administration.
    The Administrators could not find a buyer.
    They tried to get the creditors to reach a Company Voluntary Agreement, so that the club could be saved, and brought out of Administration.
    No buyer was forthcoming.
    So the Administrators sold some of the assets to a newly set up company-SevcoScotland Ltd.
    This company applied for admission, as a new club,to the then Scottish Premier League (SPL).Their application was rejected.
    They applied for admission into the First Division of the then Scottish Football League (SFL).That application failed.
    They applied for admission to the Second Division of the SFL. That application,too, was rejected.
    Finally, they were admitted as a new club to the Third Division of the SFL, under the name “The Rangers Football Club Ltd”(“TRFC”)
    Being thus a member now of a recognised Football League, they became entitled to membership of the SFA.
    [Meanwhile, Rangers Football Club ( founded in 1872 and now’ in Administration’) was renamed as Rangers 2012 plc, and sank into Liquidation in 2012, where it still is, awaiting the final dissolution]
     Under commercial law and usage and under the ordinary rules of the SFA and the SPL/SFL, “The Rangers Football Club Ltd”, founded in 2012, is not, cannot possibly be, the very same football club as the still-existing Rangers Football Club( In Liquidation)
    This means, of course, that “The Rangers Football Club Ltd” is not, cannot be, and could not possibly have been, a ‘founding member’ of the ECA.
    It was Rangers Football Club founded in 1872 that had the honour of being a ‘founder member’.
    The decision that the ECA arrived at , namely, that TRFC should be regarded as the same club as the founding member was and is therefore perverse, and contrary to fact and law and sporting truth. 
    And is (actually)an insult to the memory of a club whose long history came to a dead stop on Liquidation!
    TRFC is not entitled to be regarded as a ‘founder member’ of ECA
    And is therefore, now that it is in the SPL, obliged to seek membership of the ECA , as a new applicant.
    Those are the facts.
    Facts that under your Chairmanship of the ECA were clearly swept aside for very base reasons.
    Regrettably and regretfully, I have to say that your thrillingly superb achievements as a footballer are not enough to absolve you, as Chairman of the ECA, from blame in the ‘crime’ of allowing the SFA to get away with what many of us regard as a monstrous lie, of which the full consequences for Scottish Football are yet to be fully felt.
    Nevertheless, on a personal level, I thank you for the pleasure you footballing skills gave me, and on that account, I wish you well’
    Yours sincerely
     
     
     
     
     
     

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  27. FinlochAugust 10, 2017 at 21:24
    ‘…Valentines Clown was there too McCaig’s Tower and others too.
    We are all RTC.’
    _________
    Yes.
    There was a kind of leap of faith involved in declaring ourselves as pursuers of truth!
    I can’t be sure, of course, but there was a chap there among us who spoke to me, who didn’t volunteer his name or his blog name.
    And I have  often wondered since whether he might have been ‘RTC the person’.
    I like to think so, and I shall at this very moment 11. 58 pm raise my auld pensioner’s wee dram of Asda £16 per litre Bell’s to salute RTC… and SFM. 
    (Bugger, it’s now midnight plus one!)

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  28. I see that JJ claims to have been ‘liaising’ with Charles Green about the five way agreement. 14

    I’ll make no comment about fantasy or delusion, as that would require speculation on my part, but I can’t help but notice that JJ states that Charles Green signed the five way agreement. Considering that JJ has consistently reported as fact that Green didn’t sign the agreement, it is inexplicable that no apology or explanation is given for getting his facts wrong and doing a complete u-turn.

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  29. Hi all,
    I like many others have become impatient for movement against the cheating years.  However, as time passes, I am totally convinced that the Government and the Banking Establishment, will not allow the wrongs to be righted.  
    Any Politician who sticks there nose into this mess, know full well that that the wrath, which will descend on them, means that votes will be lost.  Therefore, rather than do anything to restore Justice and Integrity to Scottish Football, they will ignore doing what is morally right as they are all cowards! 
    The real Sevco fans who I believe are in the majority, are also scared, to take on wrongdoers.
    We all know why this continues in Scotland as no one has the courage to take on, and defeat, the cancer killing our game.
    It is embarrassing to hear the hatred and bigotry, is it not time in 2017, to say enough is enough?
    How do we change?  Scrap the current SPL and SFA leadership, and somehow bring democracy back into the game.  Stop the embarrassing chants, not by arresting people, but deducting points!  This will have to be governed by honest, and reasonable people, certainly not those who are in place currently!
    Fear is what is damaging our game!  Fear of telling Sevco fans, yes you really are a new club!  Fear of deducting points, each and every time the bigoted songbook is heard, by any side!
    I try to remain optimistic that the guys, who are far more knowledgeable than myself, can succeed in the courtrooms.  
    2017, hopefully this will be the year that the FEAR is overcome? 

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  30. FinlochAugust 10, 2017 at 21:24   
    Valentines Clown was there too McCaig’s Tower and others too.
    —————— ——————————————–
    Ah back in the day.  I was also at High Court watching Craig Whyte’s (pathetic trial) on a few occasions and witnessed Mr Murray (in his first stages of Dementia). It was strange how many things he could not remember of which I can recall and I am no spring chicken.
    From Jimbo above (Paul Brennan blog)
    When you have prima facie evidence of a governance issue, presented by your own league, involving your own past-president, you are obliged to open up to independent analysis.  Failure to “promote and protect ethical standards and good governance” put the Scottish Football Association in breach of their duty as a member association of Uefa.
    Fans will not accept anything less; clubs will not accept anything less. The matter will go to Uefa.  It will go to government.  It will go to media in England and beyond. It will go to court; those turning their heads today will be called to account.  It cannot and will not be accepted.  It will not go away.
    There will be no cover-up to protect the guilty.
    ————————————–
    I believe if this actually got covered correctly in the English media it would make a massive difference, but it would have to be reported by someone like Mr Alex Thomson (again) and then we would have an audience who would show more interest than a large percentage of our population.  This is IMO the lack of smsm  reporting this story correctly (always one sided to protect this Ibrox club). If you are not on social media then you may not be aware of the other side of this story. As mentioned above it cannot go away as it was cheating that was simply off the radar. I want all heads to roll regardless of who they are.  I want all trophies to be taken away from the history of the old Rangers and I want it to be known and accepted by all smsm, SFA, and SPFL that the team playing at Ibrox are a new club, which I have accepted as it is the truth of the matter.
    Scotland is what it is and any club playing out of Ibrox has always been protected ( as an example, for close to 100 years they as a club openly discriminated against one religion to the extent of not signing a player of that religion till 1986.  Just think about that, what country in the world or FA would allow this). Now is the time to make changes, we have to and we all need to want this as it is the only way we can call our game a sport. Who would we not want this, we all know the answer to that, but they are a minority, we have the power. Fan power is an absolute force and we have to be listened to.  I love my football and I only want it to be a fair sport, not much to ask for unless sadly your football  is played in Scotland.

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  31. JimmyBeeJayAugust 11, 2017 at 13:12
    ‘…Any Politician who sticks there nose into this mess, know full well that that the wrath, which will descend on them, means that votes will be lost”
    ____________
    Our wee Scottish government is insistent on ignoring the huge volume of public dissatisfaction with the idiotic ” Offensive behaviour at Football”, while turning deaf ears and blind eyes to the truly offensive behaviour of our cheating Football Administrators!

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  32. A jaw dropping piece from the dude who masquerades as the rangers* blogger in the record  http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-can-put-down-marker-10968571
    A piece that blatantly fails to acknowledge any wrong doing carried out in the 5 year old club he defends with vigour, his faux pas horror of the admittedly unacceptable behaviour of certain ‘fans’ among the Celtic, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd support is an exercise of abject futility when he utterly ignores the weekly hate fest that eminates from the stands down Govan way, along with the out and out bigotry, racism and homophobic utterances that pollute the site he feels honoured to be a member of beggars belief.
    For the daily record to give this imbecile a platform to voice his hatred speaks volumes of their editorial staff, maybe I’m missing something here and it is just a big wind up, if that is the case I have turned into a grumpy old git way before my time. 

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  33. Back in the late nineties I was working in Dublin. Great times! Used to get a lot of visitors coming over and had plenty of nights out with them in Temple Bar. Bit touristy for my liking normally, but definitely good craic.

    One memorable night we were out on the town and we bumped into a small group of South Africans. Turned out it was a delegation of politicians from both the ANC and the Afrikaner National Party coming to Dublin to attend the Sinn Fein Ard Fheis. This was at the time of the Good Friday Agreement and there was a strong desire to learn from the South African experience of conflict resolution and specifically their Truth and Reconciliation process.

    So I spent a very interesting hour or so chatting to these folks, including the National Party bloke who was clearly having to adapt very rapidly to massively changed circumstances.

    What struck me most about the conversation was the importance that each of them placed on the process of revealing the truth, coming clean on what had been for many people a very dark period in their lives.

    It was not a carte blanche for forgiveness. People had to participate in the process fully and to identify the damage done by their actions in order to move into the reconciliation phase.

    To this day it remains one of the outstanding examples of an attempt at serious conflict resolution and one that could usefully be emulated in many areas of public life on these islands.

    If we are going to resolve the problems that beset our sport and have done for at least fifteen years, we are going to have to engage in a process that recognises previous failings and and in some cases negligence and serious dishonesty. The calls for various types of review are effectively looking for that sort of transparency.

    The people resisting these calls are the ones who have most to hide. They are the ones who took the bungs, the succulent lamb, the brogues, the blazers, the dodgy deals etc.

    However, the truth WILL out.

    Those resisting the process now should realise that we are at a point of no return.

    If at this stage, when the cheating has been clearly identified by the Supreme Court, you decide to remain on the side of cover up and prevarication – then you have chosen your side and will have to abide by the consequences of that.

    I mentioned earlier this week that there is a strong possibility that there are skeletons in closets for a whole lot of our clubs. That we know for certain that there were extremely dodgy characters operating at clubs outside of Ibrox.

    I do not apologise for that, though I understand the anger and hurt that was subsequently expressed and wish there was a way to express this without causing such pain.

    The truth is, we are all going to have to get used to the idea that some (all?) of our clubs have very dirty laundry, in some cases potentially far worse than failure to pay all creditors the full pound they owed.

    If I find out that my club was complicit my reaction is not going to be to defend them. I will get stuck right into them. And they know it. They know that their fan base will not accept lying down to these cheats in any form.

    The time for our clubs to get on board the process of uncovering the truth and moving towards a better future where our game is protected against the cheating of the past is right now.

    Reconciliation is possible when previous damage is recognised and, where it is possible to do so, reparation is made. Yes – titles must be stripped if they were won by cheating.

    Anyone who does not get on board now, and who is subsequently found to have cheated or helped cover up the cheating should be thrown to the dogs. Banned sine die for bringing the game into disrepute.

    For some of them that should just be the start of their troubles.

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  34. ZILCH
    AUGUST 11, 2017 at 17:49

    Reconciliation is possible when previous damage is recognised and, where it is possible to do so, reparation is made. Yes – titles must be stripped if they were won by cheating.

    ==============================

    Yes indeed ZILCH.

    And it also begs the question: where would the Scottish game be currently – if it had been fortunate to have had a competent and honest SFA in place, over the last 20 years or so ?

    We last qualified for a finals in 1998, and whilst fans’ expectations were low then, just to be involved was amazing – and playing Brazil in a WC will always be special.

    With decent governance, would the national team have qualified for more finals since ’98 ?
    Would our senior clubs be making more of an impact in Europe today ?
    Mibbees aye, mibbees naw.

    Whilst we can’t say for certainty where the game would be, IMO, one can assert that having an incompetent and corrupt SFA over the last 20+ years has definitely NOT helped to protect and develop the Scottish game – at all levels.

    …to state the bleedin’ obvious.

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  35. We wouldn’t be a million miles from where we are now imho.  The only real difference is that the fans of one club would have accepted some inescapable wee technicality re their old club but were glad the wider Scottish fanbase had more or less accepted their new one as the old one.  

    And I might have been looking forward to this weekend’s fixture with the kids.  Instead I’m almost grudging them it.

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  36. StevieBCAugust 11, 2017 at 18:05

    Yes indeed ZILCH.
    And it also begs the question: where would the Scottish game be currently – if it had been fortunate to have had a competent and honest SFA in place, over the last 20 years or so ?
    We last qualified for a finals in 1998, and whilst fans’ expectations were low then, just to be involved was amazing – and playing Brazil in a WC will always be special.
    With decent governance, would the national team have qualified for more finals since ’98 ? Would our senior clubs be making more of an impact in Europe today ? Mibbees aye, mibbees naw.
    Whilst we can’t say for certainty where the game would be, IMO, one can assert that having an incompetent and corrupt SFA over the last 20+ years has definitely NOT helped to protect and develop the Scottish game – at all levels.
    …to state the bleedin’ obvious.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    With proper governance Rangers would not have been able to sign the Big Ticket players they did, thus forcing other clubs to try and compete by signing what they thought were better but more expensive players from overseas.

    Lack of governance meant Scottish talent was pushed to the fringes as the money for development went to pay inflated wages. That in my opinion is why the national team continually fails.

    Not enough money goes into youth development at the earliest stages – school football, youth football, etc. The SFA care only about the money and developing youth talent is seen as an unecessary cost (Bonuses have to be paid – Anyone know how much Reagan has received in bonuses since his installation?). How much do you have to pay the SFA to be in a position to be “qualified” to coach a youth team?

    They say the coaching school at Largs is world class. Why? The Scottish team isn’t.

    One final point and I know it is talked about on here a lot but why are the cabal of old failed dinosaurs allowed anywhere near a microphone.

    Its like a Lodge meeting when “biscuits”, Dense Derek, Smiffy, Preston etc gang up to protect tried and failed cliches and the traditional Scotch approach to the game. Is this really the best we can expect for our licence fee?

    Its’s just not the Dinos banter but their attitude to the game and hounding of new thinking (i.e Cathro). They were on his case from day one and roped in Baldy Boyd and others in the early days to what amounted to character assasination long before his coaching skills were put to the test.

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  37. Not trying to play the man here, Jimbo  but wis ye at the game tonight , ? What is the relevance of pro-IRA songs wrt Partick Thistle ? What did we  do to deserve that shite ? Playing up for the cameras were they, the Celtic fans ? And the wee boys with the smoke thingies ? And CFC fans have the cheek to complain about TRFC fans ?
    On a football level, your mob didn’t get out of second gear , and yet again , we were lucky to get the nothing . And the refereeing was appalling for both teams . I still think we should be awarding the contract to professionals from respected leagues outwith Scotland. 
    And well done for your team’s performance and victory – unfortunately away from Parkhead, a lot of your fans are abysmal, same as the other cheek , and impact negatively on the match experience for what I would term, normal people . I could expand and post videos , but the behaviour of some of your younger fans was reprehensible, and I say that as someone who has a daughter and many family members who are CFC season ticket holders  Nae hard feelings at all . 06

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  38. PADDY MALARKEYAUGUST 12, 2017 at 01:07
    Why do CFC not do anything about the disgraceful behaviour of our away support, surely in this day and age when tickets are sold it is not beyond their ken to be able to identify these half wits, what do our English based players think when they hear this nonsense coming from the support. I feel that the buses that are run to these games must also take a harder line on the singing of songs that in no way represent the majority of fans that refrain from such nonsense.
    I have grandparents who were involved in both the uprising and the following civil war and I can assure you these halfwits have no idea what it was all about if they think that spouting this baloney makes them patriotic or for that matter a better supporter, they are sadly misled, this was a time of bravery, sacrafice, grief and loss that my forefathers found hard to talk about and rarely did and for these idiots to use their cause to sully the name of the team I love troubles me greatly.
    The club was set up not as a political weapon but as a charitable organisation to help the needy regardless of creed or colour, let’s have some respect and keep it that way.

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