JPP: Perverting Justice?

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The SFA’s Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal (JPDT) process itself  is now under scrutiny .

Aberdeen FC have asked for change and the Celtic Supporters Association  have written to Ian Maxwell SFA CEO expressing concerns about judgements reached concerning recent on field incidents that appear to herald in A Cloggers Charter.

However the whole Judicial Panel Protocol (JPP) on which the JPDT is based (and which was the brainchild of the discredited former SFA Chief Executive Stewart Regan) has shown itself to be a means of perverting justice rather than providing it since it was introduced amidst a loud fanfare at the SFA AGM in June 2011 (the same one that saw Campbell Ogilvie elected SFA President)

To see how the JPP  has been misused  we need to start with a definition of  judicial which according to Websters dictionary is:

 of or relating to a judgment, the function of judging, the administration of justice

The latest Judicial Panel Protocol can be found on the SFA Web Site  .

One of its Founding Principles is:

2.2 Principle 1 – Economic and expeditious justice. The objective of the Protocol is to secure the Determination of disciplinary proceedings arising in respect of Association Football and that Decisions are made economically and expeditiously in a fair manner. Tribunals appointed from the Judicial Panel may impose reasonable procedural requirements on Parties to ensure that matters are dealt with economically and expeditiously.

The word justice actually appears nine times and injustice three times, so it would appear that whilst economy and speed are the means to the end, that end is justice, but how has that panned out since June 2011?

I am grateful here to Glasnostandtwostrickers  for three enlightening articles in Pie and Bovril in which he reviews the protocol a year later in 2012 with suggestions that with the passage of time have been shown to be prescient when made. They can be read at:

Of particular interest is the important view that the process is not independent of the SFA and the following is an extract from Pie and Bovril 3 covering that aspect which explains how the JPP has been used by the SFA to pervert rather than administer justice.

“So to what extent does the JPP system achieve that independence? We think that it does so to a far greater extent than the old system, but not nearly enough. Ensuring that the Tribunals are chaired by respected members of the legal profession was perhaps the single most important reform to make. But there remains a serious lack of independence in the JPP system. This centres on the roles of the SFA’s Compliance Officer (Vincent Lunny) and the SFA Secretary (Stewart Regan) in the process of bringing a case in front of a Tribunal.

The Compliance Officer’s task is to monitor what goes on in Scottish football, assess whether anyone has broken any rules, and – if so – to initiate the disciplinary process.  What happens if the Compliance Officer reviews a given event and decides that the conduct of the club, player or official in question doesn’t breach any rules? Well, that is the end of the matter. Neither the SFA executive nor the Judicial Panel can do anything about that decision. And, given that some SFA rules are very vague (e.g. ‘bringing the game into disrepute), the Compliance Officer wields a great deal of power. If the system is to be independent of the SFA, it the Compliance Officer must be independent of it. Yet, as things stand today, Vincent Lunny is an employee of the SFA.

The lack of independence associated with the SFA Secretary’s role is even more flagrant. Firstly, he can veto any decision of the Compliance Officer to mount a disciplinary case. Secondly, even if he allows a case to go ahead, he has the power to select (from the 100-strong Judicial Panel) the 3 individuals who will hear the case. The SFA claims that this takes place on a ‘cab rank’ basis (i.e. the Tribunal is formed of next 3 people in line), but no such rule is to be found in the JPP. On the contrary, it states that:

“Tribunals shall be appointed by the Secretary or his nominee from the Judicial Panel…The Secretary or his nominee may take such steps in respect of the appointment of Tribunals as he considers, in his sole discretion, to be appropriate.” (sections 7.2.1-2)

This applies equally to the Appellate Tribunals as it does to the first-instance Disciplinary Tribunals. So, in theory at least, the SFA Secretary gets two bites of the cherry. He may appoint to a Disciplinary Tribunal the individuals who he thinks are most likely to return the result that he desires. If they don’t, and there is an appeal, he also gets to choose the make-up of the Appellate Tribunal that will hear the appeal. And that’s only if he hasn’t blocked the case from happening in the first place. That is not to impugne Stewart Regan himself, but rather a system that allows him (and his successors) such great power.

The reasons why the JPP is structured in the way that it is are unclear. Despite the fact that it represents a great improvement over the system it replaced, more work must be done if we Scottish football is to have a genuinely independent – and therefore credible – system of footballing ‘justice’.


This  article however will let the readers decide if they impugn Stewart Regan and shows how he has used the Judicial Protocol not to deliver justice but to prevent such an outcome,  which might just clarify the reason  why the JPP was structured in the way that it was and why it absolutely must be replaced on the lines of the suggestions in the excellent Pie and Bovril articles.

Perverting the Course of Justice.

The Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal on Craig Whyte – Bringing The Game Into Disrepute.

The First instance can be found in  this E Tim’s article  where Regan and LNS met in February 2012 to set the terms of reference for the Judicial Panel that charged Craig Whyte with bringing the game into disrepute.(  Telegraph Report 21 Feb 2012 )

As the E Tim’s article shows, whilst Whyte was charged with non payment of PAYE and VAT no charges were made with regard to his failure to pay the £2.8m tax liability that CW undertook to pay in his statement to Rangers shareholders of June 2011. This omission prevented scrutiny of what lay behind that liability, what created it and why it was accepted by RFC in March 2011 and  how  the SFA were able to grant RFC a UEFA licence in April 2011.

Whatever information Regan had from his telephone conversation with Andrew Dickson  on 6th December 2011  and subsequent meeting at Hotel Du Vin with Craig Whyte along with Campbell Ogilvie and RFC CEO Ali Russell, appears not to have been passed to Lord Nimmo Smith in February 2012 when Regan and Nimmo Smith were drawing up the JPP Terms of Reference for the Craig Whyte Tribunal.

The Lord Nimmo Smith Commission

The second instance of Regan’s ability to shape outcomes  is in respect of the LNS Commission. Here the SFA stood aside on the grounds they were the Court of Appeal should RFC wish to appeal the eventual LNS Decision and let the then SPL take the running in March 2012. This was a convenient argument given that Regan knew by March 2012 that RFC had a £2.8m tax liability that Sherriff Officers had called to collect that prompted a number of enquiries asking how the SFA were able to grant a UEFA licence in March/April of 2011.

That event caused UEFA and the SFA in September 2011 to discuss the submission RFC made in June 2011 under Article 66 of UEFA FFP that described the status of the liability as postponed and awaiting scheduling of payments but more of this SFA/UEFA discussion later in the context of the current JPDT  charges of non compliance against Rangers FC.

It is inconceivable that by March 2012 when the investigation into ebts and side letters began that this  September 2011 discussion along with his conversations in December 2011 that  Regan was unaware that the tax owed was the result of RFC use of unlawful ebts nor the reasons why RFC had accepted liability for the sum owed arising from their use. However by standing aside there was no specific mention in  the SPL Lawyers letter of 15  March 2012   that began the investigation  of the by then clearly unlawful ebts that caused the £2.8m tax liability, although it did refer to all ebts with side letters from 1998.   All rather convenient for Regan under the powers the Judicial Panel  Protocol gave him.

The impact of this exclusion in skewing the LNS Terms of Reference and so the LNS Decision is now a matter of Social Media record that can be followed from beginning to end  HERE.

The E Tim’s article already mentioned covers how events from February to April 2012  allowed the exclusion from the Craig Whyte JPP and  The Reasons  given by Lord Nimmo Smith in September 2012 appear in a  follow up E Tim’s article   where LNS himself justifies  the exclusion of the £2.8m tax liability caused by RFC’s use of unlawful ebts in from 1999 to 2003 on what are less than convincing grounds unless he was kept in the dark by Regan.

 SFA JPP Charges In Respect of UEFA Licence in 2011

The final instance of the misuse of the JPP begins in September 2017 when after court testimony stating when the £2.8m tax liability was accepted, the SFA, whilst rejecting an investigation into the handling of RFC use of ebts with side letters (and the foregoing on LNS spells out why) Regan accepted that the granting  of the UEFA Licence by the SFA in 2011 should be subject to the Judicial Protocol process.

It took until mid-May 2018  for that process to come up with two charges of non compliance of SFA Articles by RFC that were put to TRFC presumably on the basis that they were responsible for the events in 2011, particularly when at least three current TRFC officials/Directors were in place in 2011, charges which TRFC said they would contest and subsequently in July wanted CAS involvement on grounds that the secret 5 Way Agreement requires it but on scope that that have still to be made known as the parties  negotiate the terms of reference to CAS.

Now seven plus months is a long time to finally arrive at charges that according to a TRFC statement in May 2018 in this BBC report excluded the very period at end of March 2011 stating accusations were groundless, that caused the SFA to invoke the JPP process, but what is interesting about those charges is the absence (and as Regan left in February he might not have had an influence or was his parting shot), of any charges against the SFA itself of aiding RFC noncompliance at end of March  in September 2011. The Compliance Officer himself resigned not long after the charges of non- compliance were made which raises eyebrows higher than Roger Moore level.

Perhaps it was because of possible SFA complicity in September 2011 that the Compliance Officer agreed to exclude this end March period although that exclusion was challenged by Resolution 12 lawyers just before the SFA Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal (JPDT) sat on 25th June. No answers to the evidence backed questions in that letter, copied to Celtic, have so far been provided.

So what are the SFA hiding from or behind the JPP process this time?

Here is a copy of the Good News  e mail of 19th September 2011 between Keith Sharp the UEFA FFP man at the SFA and Ken Olverman the Financial chap at RFC. In it Sharp tells Olverman that UEFA have verbally accepted the RFC submission of June 2011 under Article 66. (This admitted that the 2.8m EBT proposed settlement also required to be disclosed but is shown as a status of postponed (awaiting scheduling of payments)  but that a further declaration will be needed under Article 67. This can be read here but note the Comments were not part of original exchange.

Note the tone of the advice given about the Article 67 submission but the point is, either Sharp of the SFA told UEFA porkies to get the monitoring submission under Article 66, that itself was false at the time it was made, verbally accepted or told UEFA the truth and as RFC were out of Europe there was an agreement to bury it between SFA and UEFA.

That UEFA involvement if the latter instance, would explain Celtic’s reluctance to take Res12 to UEFA in 2013 especially as we don’t know UEFA’s response to Celtic’s earlier  letter  of May 2012 to SFA re ebt investigation copied to Infantino at UEFA.

If the former instance i.e. SFA told UEFA porkies it makes SFA complicit in covering up the non compliance they are charging Rangers with!

I mention this in the context of the SFA Judicial Process being totally  inappropriate in this case and why there should be  a speedy independent investigation because the charges of non-compliance that the JPDT are covering relate to RFC and NOT the SFA which is perhaps why the terms of reference to CAS are taking so long to emerge.

There is clearly a conflict of SFA self interest here.

It would be more than ironic if the organisation bringing charges against Rangers were in fact complicit in the non-compliance by Rangers after it became public HMRC were owed tax in August 2010!

Summary

The point of this long blog is that the Judicial Panel Protocol introduced by Regan in June 2011 with the flaws pointed out a year later in The Pie and Bovril articles has been used by the SFA under Regan not to produce justice but pervert it since 2011.

Only a truly independent investigation will provide the justice that the crimes perpetrated against Scottish Football and its supporters since 2000 by RFC under the dishonest leadership of Sir David Murray requires, an investigation that should recommend changes that make the JPP independent of the SFA..

Justice is there to uphold the rule of law, that applies to football law as much as natural law and without justice there can be no law. That is where Scottish football now exists, in outlaw territory with the bad guys still ruling as they please, not as justice demands.

Until justice is served and seen to be served there is no law in football and no fake Judicial Protocol Panel is ever going to provide it.

 The owners and Directors of all SPFL clubs need to revisit the scene of the crime, the 5 Way Agreement has done its  job, a form of Rangers drawing big crowds will continue to exist, but on it has to be on more honest grounds, where who knows, they might even earn redemption.

972 COMMENTS


  1. John Clark 00.33

    How can you link a post regarding an act of kindness by a stranger to someone less fortunate with what has occurred in Scottish football in recent times?

    "Nazis" even getting a mention now. Had to check it was John Clark and not John James posting.

     

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  2. slimjim 23rd September 2018 at 08:56  

    '..How can you link a post regarding an act of kindness by a stranger to someone less fortunate with what has occurred in Scottish football in recent times?'

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    It's quite easy to contrast an act of kindness shown by a stranger to someone in need with the brutal act of cheating both of the country as a whole and the football paying community that was perpetrated by one now deceased club and by the very Governance body of the sport respectively.

    The reference to Nazis  is ,of course, reference to the systematic lying propaganda adopted by those in Scottish Football governance and in the SMSM who would try to brainwash us into believing that a liquidated football club is alive and well and playing under a different name in the SPL.

     

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  3. slimjim 23rd September 2018 at 08:56

     

    John Clark 00.33

     

    How can you link a post regarding an act of kindness by a stranger to someone less fortunate with what has occurred in Scottish football in recent times? "Nazis" even getting a mention now. Had to check it was John Clark and not John James posting.

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    While alluding to Nazis is seen by many to be distasteful, is there anything pertinent within John's post that you disagree with, or are you just so devoid of any excuses or justifications for the way your clubs are/were run along with the unfaltering assistance given to them by the game's governors, that you prefer to pedantically nitpick at posts, Lawman style, rather than to address the main thrust of the arguments produced?

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  4. Allyjambo 15.01

    Only the fact that a feel good post by Jimbo is turned into another excuse,as if one is required, by JC to restate his opinion once again.. 

    My club are doing ok atm thank you. 

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  5. slimjim 23rd September 2018 at 15:27 Allyjambo 15.01 Only the fact that a feel good post by Jimbo is turned into another excuse,as if one is required, by JC to restate his opinion once again.. My club are doing ok atm thank you.

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    Your club's dead. Oh you mean their replacement club. OK, they are doing better than they have done at anytime in their existence. Still, though, you do not attempt to either agree, or disagree, with what John said, which did not relate directly to either of your clubs, but to cheats and liars in general. But if the cap fits…

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  6. slimjim 23rd September 2018 at 16:42  

     

     

    Allyjambo 16.26.

    Not going to respond to this nonsense again.

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    You just did, and left a discussion you started.

     

    You still haven't stated whether or not you agree or disagree with JC's post, and completely ignored the fact that it wasn't specifically about Rangers, though whenever cheating is mentioned in football they can't be far away from anyone's thoughts.

     

    But, anyway, you keep picking up on the things that are inconsequential to the thrust of a post, it's easier than arguing from a weak position.

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  7. Allyjambo 17.29.

    What was the point of Johns post?.  

    It seems to me that no matter the subject matter his posts are consistent in both tone and content. Nothing wrong with that of course but on this occasion i felt it unnecessary.

    Like the rules regarding red cards for off the ball incidents you mean. laugh

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  8. I was catching up on some news items on my return from holiday and came across the following case from last week, where a publican was jailed by Lord Ericht at the Court of Session for contempt of court, after breaching an interdict not to show Sky football games.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/whitburn-pub-manager-caught-streaming-sky-sports-sent-to-jail-1-4803741

    The guy seems to have been pretty stupid in repeatedly ignoring court orders, but it serves to confirm that should King continue to ignore court orders, then he will leave himself open to a custodial sentence, civil matter or not.

     

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  9. Just a note on the 'Different Tops' worn on a recent European tie. At first glance it looks like there has been a rogue top in amongst the other tops and that this one top was probably supplied from a street trader in some holiday resort. But that's not the case. The official top whose details are logged with UEFA has a sponsors logo in RED. not Black. Look at the official sales pictures from Ibrox. All have 32 Red in red font. So NONE of the tops worn on Thursday evening matched up to the top registered wit UEFA.

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  10. easyJambo 23rd September 2018 at 18:33  

    '..where a publican was jailed by Lord Ericht at the Court of Session for contempt of court, .'

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    One would be tempted to see certain advantages in  being an impecunious person with rights in a Family Trust than an ex-manager of a small-town pub, when it comes to flouting the Courts.broken heart

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  11. CQN been down for hours!  Missing it dreadfully for the football side of things.

     

    Had a few pints in the Clachan, 1970s early 1980s.  Long before Sky TV.  So not guilty m'lud!

    I suppose we have got what a lot of people have wanted for a long while. A wide open league. Not saying I am happy but as long as my brothers and sisters on here are happy, it takes the sting out of it.

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  12. On the subject of cheating in sport, I have to confess that I was actually quite shocked to hear this afternoon on BBC Radio 4, a programme which discussed the (apparent) fact that Paralympics has a 'cheating' problem. 

    It seems that some people deliberately fake their impairments or exaggerate them, in order to be classified as more 'impaired' than they are- so as to gain a sporting advantage over those against those against whom they compete.

    Good God Almighty!
    What can be in their minds, to pretend to be more disabled than they are in order to compete against people who are actually more disabled than they?

    What in God's name is their idea of Sport, and personal integrity in Sport?

    Thank the Lord that we in Scottish Football have a governance regime that simply would not tolerate any  kind of cheating by a club, let alone be complicit in it!

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  13. slimjim 23rd September 2018 at 17:59

     

    Allyjambo 17.29.

    What was the point of Johns post?. It seems to me that no mattert the subject matter his posts are consistent in both tone and content. Nothing wrong with that of course but on this occasion i felt it unnecessary. Like the rules regarding red cards for off the ball incidents you mean. laugh

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    The point of John's post is fully consistent with what I believe to be one of this site's greatest values – reminding us all of the cheating and cover-ups that have gone on in Scottish football and the continued failure of the mainstream media to give it proper coverage and so become a part of the problem. Without this blog and other similar ones, it would be all too easy for those who would want us to 'move on' to see their wishes fulfilled.

     

    It is, of course, something that all 'Rangers' supporters would like to be forgotten, and they, themselves, have a consistent method of leading the blog away from what they want forgotten, and that is to pick up on the parts of posts that are of no consequence to Scottish football rather than to challenge the point that is being made. 

     

    It is notable that, however many people don't like the use of 'Nazi' allegories, only you saw fit to draw the blog's attention towards it, despite the fact that John was generalizing and not being specific about either Ibrox club. It is significant, however, that you, and us all, automatically think of those two Ibrox clubs whenever the subject of lying and cheating in Scottish football is raised.

     

    My apologies to the blog for continuing this argument from yesterday.

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  14. I notice John Clark's post of last night at 23.40 on cheating in sport, and specifically in the Paralympics, has attracted 3 TDs. Does that suggest that there are people who visit this site who actually accept cheating in sport as being OK, or is it the case that some people are set to automatically TD posts from certain posters regardless of the content? It is also notable that none of the three have seen fit to post a counter argument, as is nearly always the case with TDers.

     

    Might I also say that I wholeheartedly agree with John that it is extremely disappointing (disappointing? It's bloody sickening) to see that, in some people, cheating comes so naturally they would even cheat the (more) severely disabled.

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  15. Morning gents, good to see the irrepressible "Godwin's Law" coming to the fore on here. 😉

     

    Fascinating weekend of football with Hibs, Aberdeen and Rangers all looking very impressive and Hearts maintaining their unbeaten record.  Far too early to be writing Celtic off but there are undeniably shades of Rangers failed 10 in a row bid about their start to the season.  

     

    The media will of course run with "Celtic in crisis" as their angle as is their way but I think the thing being overlooked is that the league is just generally more competitive than it has been in years (possibly decades).  I certainly won't be predicting the winner and I wouldn't be betting against Celtic with their riches rising to the top in the end but one prediction I will make is that the winning points total will be one of the lowest in the modern era.

     

    We're going to see good teams like Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Celtic, Rangers and Killie take points off each other every week.  There is a lot wrong with Scottish football but it's worth pointing out that there is a lot we're getting right as well.

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  16. Funny old game football isn't it

    Celtic fans in meltdown 6 games into the season having won back to back trebles ffs!!

    Not exactly Real Madrid ourselves at the moment but its early days

     

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  17. Allyjambo 24th September 2018 at 09:08

    "Might I also say that I wholeheartedly agree with John that it is extremely disappointing (disappointing? It's bloody sickening) to see that, in some people, cheating comes so naturally they would even cheat the (more) severely disabled."

    Why would this be a suprise Allyjambo the Torys have been cheating the disabled for years by depriving them off their entitlements.

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  18. bigboab1916 24th September 2018 at 10:36

     

    Allyjambo 24th September 2018 at 09:08

     

    "Might I also say that I wholeheartedly agree with John that it is extremely disappointing (disappointing? It's bloody sickening) to see that, in some people, cheating comes so naturally they would even cheat the (more) severely disabled." Why would this be a suprise Allyjambo the Torys have been cheating the disabled for years by depriving them off their entitlements.

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    I perhaps should have said 'disappointing but even more disappointingly not surprising'.

     

    Though I was limiting my thoughts to a sporting context, I do agree with the sentiment of your post having, through my work, experienced just how horrendous it is for the disabled when dealing with the DWP whose current remit is clearly to deprive rather than support the disabled.

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  19. Well it’s been a while since I actually posted something but I have been just about keeping up with reading the contributions of others.

    It seems that just about everything that I believed would unfold this season was mistaken – so far!

    I’m delighted that Hearts are at the top of the league and, even though I am in the 10 in a row camp, I would love them to win it.

    I was very sad to watch Rodgers bubble burst with the calamitous transfer business or lack there of at Celtic Park. I think we may have already lost him. I think, in playing Boyata after he let his teammates down so badly, Brendan may have broken an unwritten rule. Time will tell whether or not this has lost him the dressing room.

    I really did believe that Sevco would not be able to mount a challenge this season but here they are winning games and still paying players wages! Just don’t know how they do it! At the time of my last post, I also doubter we would see Stevie G manage his team in the premiership. I was wrong about that one too.

    This story really is taking much longer to unfold than I expected – I know!

    Still, time will tell!

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  20. armchairsupporter 24th September 2018 at 23:18  

    '…Still, time will tell!'

    Yes, o be of good cheer, armchair, and keep in mind that 'the mills of God grind slowly but they grind exceeding fine'. ( I was astonished to discover that that sentiment was first expressed in ancient Greece!)

    The baddies know themselves to be on the wrong side of the divide between truth and falsehood.
    For all their protestations, they know that not since some date in 2012 has the Rangers Football Club of 1872 kicked a ball, and that whatever TRFC Ltd does or achieves cannot be honestly shown in the sporting record books as being the achievement  of Rangers Football Club of 1872.

    Truth will out, sooner or later. 

     

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  21. I asked Hummel about the strip fiasco and got this in response . Very polite and informative (I think) .

     

    Thank you for your feedback.

     

    The blue stripe on top is the correct one – we are sorry about the error.

     

    Furthermore the reason why the sponsorname, 32Red is black is that is is printed on top of the stripes afterwards.

     

    This is due to the fact that in Europe it is not legal to advertise on jerseys for betting companies – therefore it is produced plain for those matches without the name. However in some countries wearing player jerseys with names of betting companies is not illegal and therefore they printete the 32Red in black on top of the stripes in order to wear them for games where it is possible.

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  22. paddy malarkey 25th September 2018 at 13:22

    I asked Hummel about the strip fiasco and got this in response . Very polite and informative (I think) .

    There is still the issue of why an “incorrect” strip was worn Paddy, and offers little explanation regarding that.
    I can’t imagine that as manufacturers, they are too pleased at the club wearing clobber not from their stable, after shelling out for the rights to manufacture said clobber.
    Bad enough that the manufacturers are already experiencing difficulties getting their product to market, creating the black-market gap, but to have that compounded by the club itself not only promoting the hooky gear, but wearing it, (either accidentally or by design), must smart a wee bit.

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  23. Not posted anything for a while but still keeping in touch and did make a small donation to the site’s "continuity" fund. Clearly a lot of the site’s momentum has been lost. Why?

    The OC/NC issue raises its head every now and again without any chance of anybody ever changing their mind (even the bonkers ocnc thread ran out of steam). The SMSM, our club’s Boards, players and ex players, managers, the SFA, the SPFL and UEFA (see Lawman2’s post on the ocnc thread) all continue to support the BIG LIE with only defiant fan chants of "you’re not Rangers any more" suggesting otherwise. Resolution 12 looks to be dead in the water and it is equally clear that Celtic have been as complicit in the BIG LIE as the rest. So the cheating, the lying and financial doping will remain largely unpunished and trophies won during that period will stay where they are. JC you say "Truth will out, sooner or later" but I fear not. The longer the current myth is perpetuated the less chance of that outing but I agree we must all persist. Money at the end of the day is at the root of the matter.

    Regarding the future It is now very clear that TRFC will survive and flourish (hate to say I told you so but I did many times) despite the numerous prophecies on here of Admin2 . The "Old Firm" are back and the duopoly with it; sorry Hearts order will be restored. The Stevie G gamble appears to have paid off and the money keeps appearing from somewhere. The GASL keeps kicking the ball down the road and will no doubt disappear into the sunset when he can extract what he believes he is "due" from old Rangers. I don’t accept for a minute he is a RRM or even someone who is particularly interested in football.

    I will be at Easter Road tonight and hopefully there will be a good crowd enjoying a good honest game of football refereed by an honest referee who might make some honest mistakes ( I know there are some in our ranks who will look at Steven Mclean and fear the worst!) My negative thoughts however will be toward the Directors box where no doubt Petrie and Milne will have shared a libation before the match and at half time whilst exchanging views on what is best for Scottish Football.

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  24. Corrupt official 25th September 2018 at 13:55 

    Hummel seems to be distancing themselves from the situation , as the email also contains this –

     

    Should you have further questions or comments about the Rangers kit, please contact the club directly, as hummel is not involved in this. It is Rangers FC itself who manages the sale and design, and we kindly encourage you to ask the club.

     

    You can try reaching them at:https://rangers.co.uk/club/contact-us/ 

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  25. bordersdon 

    25th September 2018 at 14:11  

     

    Regarding the future It is now very clear that TRFC will survive and flourish (hate to say I told you so but I did many times) …

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    How is that "very clear". 

    Forgive me but I have not seen their accounts for last year, do not know the level of debt they have, do not know what their expenditure now is with their new management team and players, have yet to see a substantial increase in merchandising income.

    So whilst you may have "told people so many times" how is it "very clear that TRFC will survive and flourish".

    They may very well, if the fanbase stays, the merchandise income improves, the new shareholders put the money in, and they clear the debt, along with financing the additional costs. I do not think it is "very clear" they will. 

    On that, how is the share issue progressing, I haven't seen anything at Companies House yet. Surely that was just a nod and a wink and a notification to Companies House. 

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  26. paddy malarkey 25th September 2018 at 17:08
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    Corrupt official 25th September 2018 at 13:55

    Hummel seems to be distancing themselves from the situation , as the email also contains this –
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    Sounds like they almost WANT you to contact Sevco Paddy.

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  27. Homunculus 25th September 2018 at 19:50 On that, how is the share issue progressing, I haven't seen anything at Companies House yet. Surely that was just a nod and a wink and a notification to Companies House. ……………….. It is right behind the replica,replica shirt's now for sale.indecision

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  28. Corrupt official 25th September 2018 at 19:58  

    My thoughts as well , so I did , referencing the emails from Hummel . I am not holding my breath awaiting a reply/response .

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  29. Re the retail deal. If i remember correct was something to be submitted to the judge within 28 days and was there to be an announcement by Oct 3rd.

    Or is my memory going?

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  30. bordersdon 25th September 2018 at 14:11  

    '…So the cheating, the lying and financial doping will remain largely unpunished and trophies won during that period will stay where they are. .'

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    Yes: they will stay on the records of Rangers Football Club plc which, having been liquidated in 2012, ceased to exist as a football club and therefore could not, and cannot ever, add to its football achievements  by falsely claiming the merits of a quite different club.

    As for 

    "..Regarding the future It is now very clear that TRFC  will survive and flourish":

    it may very well survive , and might conceivably win its first SPL title this season.  but that is TRFC Ltd, not Rangers of 1872!

    And as for 'flourishing', TRFC Ltd's dishonest and ridiculous claim to have earned sporting honours over a period of time when it did not exist will stain its name for ever: no matter what level of genuine football it may  have, it will be forever known as being as cheating-minded a club as was the Liquidated RFC of 1872 (under arch-deceiver SDM).

    Stained with dishonour both in its origins, and by its persistence in lying.

    A stain of dishonour which it will share forever with the  governance body of Scottish Football which so shamefully   resiled from its bounden duty  to uphold the Integrity of the Sport of Football.

    Maledictions be upon them.

     

     

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  31. paddy malarkey 25th September 2018 at 20:54 Corrupt official 25th September 2018 at 19:58 My thoughts as well , so I did , referencing the emails from Hummel . I am not holding my breath awaiting a reply/response

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  32. On TRFC's continued survival.

     

    This club has confounded all expectations of those who have followed the financials of that club without the use of blue tinted spectacles. We did, though, view them through out own spectacles which were, quite naturally, tinted with some wishful thinking. Nonetheless, there can be no doubt that The Rangers Football Club Ltd, and it's holding company, Rangers International Football Club plc, have bounced from one financial crisis to another since both were born.

     

    The thing is, they are still in a financial crisis, as the known knowns, and the known unknowns, all point to, for their best case scenario depends on a number of future events all working out for them perfectly. So far, one part of their speculative plan has worked out, almost to perfection, and that is their sojourn in Europe, a part of the plan that not only helps them financially, but also goes a long way to keeping the supporters onside and blinded to the problems of having a criminal as their de facto chairman and main (only?) driving force.

     

    As things stand, we do not know to what extent their costs have gone up from last season, though we can be certain they have gone up by a large factor, with more very highly paid players coming onto the books, with few departures, and the need to pay up transfer fees including a number of historical transfers for players no longer kicking a ball for the club (not kicking a ball, but some still on the books).

     

    Without listing them, there are still a number of legal battles going on, some not, apparently, directly affecting them, but at least one with potentially dire consequences for the club (TOP), and there's still the possibility that the battle with Mike Ashley/SDI is not over, and we can add the spurned merchandising partner to that possible litigation.

     

    All of this, I'd suggest, will be as nothing, though, if the share issue comes to nothing, or doesn't even get off the ground. The silence that suggests a lack of progress may well be indicative of nothing and it may be progressing as planned, but until the issue is complete there will always remain the possibility that it is nothing more than yet another can kicking exercise by King and RIFC/TRFC. There can be little doubt that a minimum success rate will exist, though the club's progress in Europe might just swing it for them giving confidence to those who might reluctant to increase their shareholdings.

     

    But, one of the known unknowns is what effect the TOP case might have, and whether or not it might stop, or delay, the share issue, and what might come about if King is forced (as he should be) to make his offer. Who would bet against him looking after number one and cutting his losses to avoid jail time (potentially) while keeping as much of his fortune intact, even if it means his plans to move his illegitimate monies to wherever it is he wants them to be has to be put on hold. That's the thing about criminals, if getting out of Dodge is their best course of action, they tend to get out of Dodge, without the least concern for the mess they leave behind.

     

    So, things might well be looking better for TRFC at the moment, but there's still a lot of balls in the air, and even the best of jugglers drop one at some point in time, and I'd suggest that we've now reached the point where it will only take one missed ball to bring the whole lot crashing down.

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  33. As a response to bordersdons comments. With regards to the finances, I don't believe for one minute we are out of the woods yet. I never subscribed to the views we were going into administration again anytime soon, but there has been no doubt that the outgoing still outweigh the income by a considerable margin. Europa league will definitely help but until Rangers can get cash neutral, or in a profit, we are still at risk of insolvency. The club is in a very precarious position that if the chairman pulls the plug, the club will go under and with someone like King in charge I can never allow myself to feel to comfortable.

     

    With regards Resolution 12, i still believe there will be something comes out of that. It may end up being a token fine and a suspended ban from the competition (my prediction) but I do think there will be a resolution. Just not to what everyone is perhaps hoping, but that's just my opinion.

     

    As far as the OC/NC and any new trophies added to the old ones, I think you are 100% correct and I have always stated that. UEFA have now joined the SFA camp of continuity and I see no reason why they would not add Rangers new trophies when we get them to the existing considering they have set a precident with every other phoenix club. That suddenly after 6 years of SFA, SMSM and fellow players, managers and custodians of the game towing that line, the thought that suddenly whenever the next title is won is not added to the existing haul is wishful thinking and I believe through the tinted glasses AJ mentions above. No matter how much people such as John Clark believe it is wrong, unimaginable or outragious, there is absolutely no appetite to treat Rangers any differently by the authorities (UEFA, SFA, SPFL), the media, the clubs themselves including Celtic, or for that matter the government (had they have felt we should not be allowed to call ourselves Rangers they would have stepped in a long long time ago). A handful of fans on forums such as this is not likely to change 6 and a half years of narrative.

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  34. Darkbeforedawn 26th September 2018 at 08:31

    As a response to bordersdons comments. With regards to the finances, I don’t believe for one minute we are out of the woods yet. I never subscribed to the views we were going into administration again anytime soon, but there has been no doubt that the outgoing still outweigh the income by a considerable margin. Europa league will definitely help but until Rangers can get cash neutral, or in a profit, we are still at risk of insolvency. The club is in a very precarious position that if the chairman pulls the plug, the club will go under and with someone like King in charge I can never allow myself to feel to comfortable.

    With regards Resolution 12, i still believe there will be something comes out of that. It may end up being a token fine and a suspended ban from the competition (my prediction) but I do think there will be a resolution. Just not to what everyone is perhaps hoping, but that’s just my opinion.

    …I appreciate it is only your opinion DBD, but for clarification, is it your opinion that Rangers(I.L.) made a fraudulent Euro application?

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  35. Darkbeforedawn 26th September 2018 at 08:31 As a response to bordersdons comments. With regards to the finances, I don't believe for one minute we are out of the woods yet. I never subscribed to the views we were going into administration again anytime soon, but there has been no doubt that the outgoing still outweigh the income by a considerable margin. Europa league will definitely help but until Rangers can get cash neutral, or in a profit, we are still at risk of insolvency. The club is in a very precarious position that if the chairman pulls the plug, the club will go under and with someone like King in charge I can never allow myself to feel to comfortable. With regards Resolution 12, i still believe there will be something comes out of that. It may end up being a token fine and a suspended ban from the competition (my prediction) but I do think there will be a resolution. Just not to what everyone is perhaps hoping, but that's just my opinion.

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         .I appreciate it is only your opinion DBD, but for clarification, is it your opinion that Rangers(I.L.) made a fraudulent Euro application?

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  36. It is CO. I think we applied knowing full well that we didn't meet the FFP requirements that year, and as a result should not have been allowed to take part. I don't know how it will be resolved, as for UEFA or SFA to admit that would open a can of worms regaridng prize money etc. That's why I believe the penalty will be something like a fine and a suspended sentence as it will be the easiest punishment for UEFA or the SFA to impose.

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  37. Darkbeforedawn 26th September 2018 at 09:27

     

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    It is CO. I think we applied knowing full well that we didn't meet the FFP requirements that year, and as a result should not have been allowed to take part. I don't know how it will be resolved, as for UEFA or SFA to admit that would open a can of worms regaridng prize money etc. That's why I believe the penalty will be something like a fine and a suspended sentence as it will be the easiest punishment for UEFA or the SFA to impose.

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    I made reference yesterday to the apparent readiness for some people to automatically TD certain posters. In view of that, and to keep some balance, I have to say that I am surprised at the number of TDs given to this post, 6 – 0 at time of writing, in which DBD actually agrees with the thrust of the blog over Resolution12. OK he's suggesting a less than punitive penalty, but he is probably being quite realistic going on all previous penalties handed out to Ibrox based clubs.

     

    Sadly, as I also pointed out yesterday, none of the TDers have seen fit to challenge DBD's post. We all agree that the TD/TU facility should not be taken too seriously, but for all we know many non participating readers might view them as an indication of the openness of the blog, and to TD someone who is posting something in line with the blog, but comes from a position usually opposing the blog, could well give the impression we all want to avoid – that we are so partisan in our views that we are not prepared to give credit where credit is due.

     

    So credit to DBD, it can never be easy to admit wrongdoing by your (and our own) club(s) and, as has often be alluded to here, his club would be in a much better position, and better accepted by all, if a greater number of it's supporters showed that same readiness to confront reality as he has shown here.

     

    Of course, it may well be that the 6 TDs belong to the same people that were automatically TDing posts yesterday, or just people not happy with one of their own being so honest.

     

     

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  38. Darkbeforedawn 26th September 2018 at 09:27  

    '…as for UEFA or SFA to admit that would open a can of worms regaridng prize money etc. That's why I believe the penalty will be something like a fine and a suspended sentence as it will be the easiest punishment for UEFA or the SFA to impose.'

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    Whatever the 'football' punishment, if there is evidence of crime, I think I will  be writing to the COPFS to ask for a criminal investigation to be undertaken. Millions of pounds were at stake.

    The fact that the COPFS made a b.lls up of other prosecutions might possibly make it unlikely that they would do so, but they would have to tell me, in writing. And if they choose to tell untruths about the 'evidence' or decide that 'policy' dictates that the public interest would not be served by opening an investigation, then we would know where hearts and minds are in this little country of ours.

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  39. Darkbeforedawn 26th September 2018 at 09:27
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    Cheers DBD, I see where you are coming from re SFA/UEFA, but for them to impose ANY sanctions, paves the way for the victims to seek reparation.. Not only the deprived clubs,(domestic and overseas) but fee paying fans who coughed at the turnstiles to watch what they thought was an honest game. Then there are the broadcasters to consider.

    I think that broadly gives you an insight into what the Res12 Bhoys have been up against. Couple that with documented evidence that appears to show a level of complicity within our governing bodies and it paints a broader picture still.
    From my point of view the severity of this offence can warrant nothing less than a retrospective ban Sine Die of all who were involved.
    As you say, attempts will, and are being made, to nullify the potential outcomes of this dishonesty, but ANY finger pointing of guilt opens the door to the deeper dungeon. It is my opinion that the entire wretched ensemble, and ALL the misdeeds need to be dragged into a real court-room, with a real judge overseeing proceedings.
    As you know, that route was slammed shut by the SFA…..A strange reaction from a governing body with nothing to fear.
    It is not an event that can be looked upon in isolation,(And this IS just one event of many) as it embroils the whole game. It brings the very structure and ethos of the game in Scotland into disrepute. A fine just doesn’t cut it.
    Especially when those issuing the fine, bear as much, if not more guilt, than those fined for an act they were complicit in (from a position of trust and supposed neutrality)..

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  40.  Corrupt official 26th September 2018 at 10:32

    " …….It brings the very structure and ethos of the game in Scotland into disrepute.."

    Exactly so, CO. 

    It is not ,and has never been, only about the vile, decade-long cheating by SDM's 'Rangers', but about the alleged much more serious complicity in that cheating by the very Governance body of a Sport.

    If that Sports cheating ( eg, allowing the myth that a liquidated club is the very same entity as a club newly admitted to professional football six years ago!) also involved financial cheating which included sliding millions of pounds to an unentitled club, the Scottish Football needs a thorough clear out, with, perhaps, certain  individuals facing criminal charges.

    If I were on the Board of a governance body which was facing charges , I would very quickly distance myself from those whom I knew to be the ones who actually would be accused, and no feeling of loyalty for guys who might be found guilty of crime would induce me to back off from having allegations investigated.

    If Bill Cosby can be jailed years after the offence(s) of which he was convicted, no shady-dealer on  a football governance body can rest easy, where , for example, he might have been involved in telling lies in order to award a licence to a football club!

     

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  41. I see JD Sports are selling the new TRFC tops today. Sports Direct won the court case to prevent JD becoming the new partner due to his 'match the terms' clause. Does this mean SD has decided NOT to match the terms, or does it mean TRFC are taking a flyer and hoping to get away with it? Surely not as they already know Ashley is quite litigious (especially when it comes to them).

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  42. Dark before dawn @ 08.31

     “A handful of fans on forums such as this is not likely to change 6 and a half years of narrative.”

    As you probably already know I’m entirely happy to count myself among the handful of fans. I’m surprised you used the term “ narrative” as it suggests one great big made up story that we should all accept. No thanks.

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  43. Here we go.

     

    Kris Boyd.

     

    Not my favourite player, a poacher, like Ally McCoist.  

     

    But he is now a part time pundit..  Sometimes I agree with him, although it pains me to admit it.  Like Chris Sutton.

     

    I don't know the rules about a current player viewing things in the game with regards to the rules of bringing the game into disrepute.

     

    What he has said recently is not far off what a lot of Celtic supporters have said.

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  44. nawlite 26th September 2018 at 13:08 15 0 Rate This I see JD Sports are selling the new TRFC tops today. ………….. Should be a statement to follow,followenlightened

    And let the fans know how good this deal is before they buy the replica,replica tops.

    Will the club get more than 7p a top?

    Are they rid off Ashley like king said, and it's ok to buy the tops now?

    Is Ashley an ok guy now?

    It's all about transparency.

    Did king ever get justice?

     

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ClusterOne2/status/1042465134478872576?p=v

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