Does Money Indeed Ruin Football?

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For those following the games, rooting for their favourite teams and feverishly discussing their matches between two glasses of ale, football is a mix of entertainment and something to be excited about. These fans are, in turn, a massive customer base for those behind football as a business: their dedication and following is the driving force behind broadcast rights, merchandise, and ticket sales, all of which turn a wonderful sport into a cash cow for those pulling the strings. As long as the game is fair, both in the field and behind the scenes, it’s a win-win for all parties: the players get their salaries, the fans get their quality football, and the business entities behind them, ranging from football betting operators to the teams’ owners, advertisers, sponsors, and such, all get their money. Like in every business, though, there are parties in football that don’t exactly operate according to the rules. Of business, that is.

What many people don’t realize, though, is that football goes beyond being simply a game. As MEP Stelios Kouloglou pointed out in an op-ed published on Euractive this April, football can often flow into different areas like politics and racial bias, pointing out that the emergence of Pelé, one of the best football players ever, was instrumental to significantly reducing racism in Brazil. Yet the democratic nature of football is degraded today thanks to all the money flowing into it. And the best example of this, Kouloglou writes, is the UEFA Champions League.

As he points out, the only clubs that can reach the Champions League semi-finals are from the “big 5” countries – Spain, Italy, France, Germany and Great Britain. And this happens not because there aren’t any talented teams in other countries but because of all the money flowing into the clubs nowadays. After all, not all clubs can afford to pay almost £200 million for a single player, no matter how talented and marketable the player might be. These big clubs with big money behind them syphon all the most talented players from all over the world, offering amazing transfer fees and strengthening their ranks – investing in their future success with the goal of keeping their fans’ attention pointed on them, and making even more money in the process.

And where there’s money, there must be scandals related to money. Corruption and tax avoidance run rampant across football, from the top of organizations like FIFA and UEFA down to local clubs and players, working with financial advisors like Kingsbridge that allegedly help them invest in ways that will grant them tax relief, schemes that “don’t work”, according to HM Revenue and Customs.

A few years ago, an unpopular opinion emerged in the press stating that the influx of big money into football will ruin it forever by attracting the “wrong kind of owners” that see clubs as their “cash cow”, among others. MP Damian Collins went as far as saying that “Running a big football club now is like running a Hollywood studio – it’s a content business. The money goes to the stars”. And this is one of the biggest issues today’s football faces that can ruin it forever.

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  1. I have to say protecting the innocent is stretching it a bit but fair enough H, that's your view.  There is a wide range of sanctions that can be applied progressively but at the moment there are no repercussions for the clubs or the SFA at all so of course they don't give a hoot.  I think it's a flawed view as is your presumption that it doesn't work.  We are complicit in protecting the wrongdoers, in doing nothing about sectarianism and violence at football and in letting the clubs and the SFA walk away form their mess. That's my view. 

     

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  2. upthehoops 7th March 2019 at 17:43

    I may be wrong but I can't recall any major teams being hit with points deductions or getting chucked out of tournaments.

    Small fines are chicken feed for the big guns of Europe who have circa £20m to pay for Morelos.

    It may be painful in the short term but plenty people are keen to tell us how much even a club like Celtic have in the bank. So they would simply shrug off a fine likes the ones that have been given out by Uefa over the years.

    If its not at the level of  hurting a team's performance and progress in leagues and cups, or making a big hit on their pockets then I don't really see the point of SL.

    So I agree. What has gone before doesn't necessarily work but I believe we should go further than that to help clear up the nonsense once and for all.

     

    I also like the idea, I think I heard on the radio, of saying that Scottish fans should be given a warning that SL is there ready and waiting and that for the season before implementation the fans will be under notice. If they behave,  SL stays on the shelf. If not then it comes in.

    The transgressors could then start the new season on -10 points, just for good measure.

     

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  3. Good arguments on both sides about strict liability but its the people throwing, coins, bottles, flares,and what ever comes to hand the sectarian singers and racist name callers these are the ones that must be stopped .And the only way is to jail them dont fine them as most of there kind club together to pay them then its off down the pub for a sing song.

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  4. ernie 7th March 2019 at 18:25

     

    "I have to say protecting the innocent is stretching it a bit but fair enough H, that's your view."

     

    If someone has committed no offence and they are banned from using their season ticket and going to watch the team they support then it is punishing the innocent.

    It's not my view, it's a fact. 

     

    "I think it's a flawed view as is your presumption that it doesn't work."

     

    Do you believe that there is no racism, sectarianism, violence etc across Europe and the countries where it has been introduced. If so I don't agree.

     

     

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  5. thattim 7th March 2019 at 19:48

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    I agree, identify the guilty and punish them, under the law.

    Then impose football life bans on them.

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  6. sannoffymesssoitizz 7th March 2019 at 11:35
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    Independent report on policing of football published Published 06 March 2019

    An independent review of the policing of football in Scotland has been published today (Wednesday, 6 March 2019).
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    CELTIC Football Club notes the release of yesterday’s report covering the policing of football in Scotland.
    Contrary to certain media reports, this study was not commissioned in response to any incident at Celtic Park and it covers a range of issues surrounding policing, safety and the licensing of football across the whole of Scotland.
    It is well-known that Celtic has commissioned its own report into the events at Celtic Park last year, an incident which the Club has treated with the utmost seriousness. The outcome of this comprehensive and thorough investigation will be released shortly.
    http://www.celticfc.net/news/15860
    The SMSM what are they like.

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  7. Does anyone know if the american that sevco signed in the last transfer window got a work permit just asking seeing as the american Celtic signed was refused 1.

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  8. I'm glad you spotted that too Homunculus 7th March 2019 at 15:55

    Independent of Police Scotland but not independent of Police England!

    AND for those who never got to pages 63-66

    Contributors to the Review

    Scottish Police Authority

    Hugh Grover – Chief Executive, Scottish Police Authority

    Stephen Jones – Director of Planning and Corporate Support – Scottish Police Authority

    Scottish Parliament

    MSP James Kelly

    Police Scotland

    Chris Starrs – Head of Corporate Communications

    Steve Smith – Head of News

    Chief Superintendent Lesley Clark

    Superintendent Graham McInarlin

    Superintendent Bob Paris

    Superintendent Jim Royan

    Chief Inspector Alison Kennedy

    Chief Inspector David McIntosh

    CI Chris Scobbie

    Inspector Marian McLean

    Inspector Mark Wilson

    Inspector Murray Starkey

    Inspector Neil Mitchell

    Inspector Barry Spiers

    Inspector Kevin Lammie

    Sergeant Dave Patton

    FoCUS Intelligence Unit

    FoCUS Operational Team

    Pc Alan Ralton

    Scottish Media Focus Group

    Rebecca Gray – Scottish Sun Crime Reporter

    Kris Gilmartin – Scottish Sun online News Editor

    Chris McLaughlin – BBC Sports Reporter

    Corrie Martin – Global Head of News

    Graham Speirs – The Times football writer

    Normal Sylvester – The Sunday Mail Senior Reporter

    Stephen Naysmith – The Herald

    Scottish Football Association

    Peter McLaughlin – Head of Security & Integrity

    Julie Tudhope – Head of Events

    Martin Stolarek – Deputy Head of Security

    Scottish Professional Football League

    Iain Blair – Co Secretary & Director of Operations

    Anton Fagan – Operations & Events Manager

    Safety Officers Focus Group

    Jim Thomson – Dundee FC

    Brian Muir – Hampden Stadium

    Robbie McGregor – Hearts FC

    Willie Beattie – Aberdeen FC

    Jim Drennan – Kilmarnock FC

    Robert Park – Motherwell FC

    Alan Marshall – Hibs FC

    David Martin – Rangers FC

    Robin Howe – Rangers FC

    Ronnie Hawthorne – Celtic FC

    Alan Scott – Livingston FC

    Supporters Focus Group

    Alan Russell – Supporters Direct

    Beverley Mayer – St Johnstone FC SLO

    John Paul Taylor – Celtic FC SLO

    Lynn Fiske – Aberdeen FC SLO

    John Longmuir – Hearts FC SLO

    Greg Marshall – Rangers FC SLO

    John Allison – St Mirren FC SLO

    Allen Kyle – Kilmarnock FC SLO

    Paul Goodwin – Scottish Football Supporters Association

    Match Commanders Focus Group

    Chief Supt Alan Murray

    Supt John McBride

    Supt Richard Craig

    Supt Innes Walker

    Supt Carol McGuire

    CI Mark Leonard

    CI Elliot Brown

    CI Alun Williams

    CI David Robertson

    Scottish Police Federation

    Paul Connolly

    David Hamilton

    Other Contributors

    Mari Millar Glasgow SAG Chair

    Paul Smith St Johnstone Stadium Manager

     

     

     

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  9. UEFA Club Financial Control Body opens investigation into Manchester City for alleged Financial Fair Play violations.

    https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/protecting-the-game/club-licensing-and-financial-fair-play/news/newsid=2594640.html

    The Investigatory Chamber of the independent UEFA Club Financial Control Body has today opened a formal investigation into Manchester City FC for potential breaches of Financial Fair Play (FFP) regulations. 

    The investigation will focus on several alleged violations of FFP that were recently made public in various media outlets.

    UEFA will make no further comments on the matter while the investigation is ongoing. 

     

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  10. sannoffymesssoitizz 7th March 2019 at 23:53 …………….. For a minute there it looked like the end credits to a marvel Avengers movie.mail

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  11. Homunculus 7th March 2019 at 20:34

    I agree, identify the guilty and punish them, under the law.

    Then impose football life bans on them.

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    Can't disagree with that, but it doesn't suit hand wringing politicians, or BBC sportswriters who have an unhealthy focus on one single group of supporters. It may be a different issue, but it would have helped had the same politicians and sportswriters been as outraged at the huge financial crimes committed by the former Rangers Football Club, and demanded the SFA act in the most severe manner, rather than making every excuse under the sun for it. 

    In short, Strict Liability will depend on who you are, what you are, and who is going to gain and who is going to lose the most. As with everything the media will create public outrage about what they don't like as per their own agenda, and ignore other things which should attract punishment as well. Those who are empowered to dispense punishment, who will almost certainly be anonymous, will be totally inconsistent as well.

    It just can't work in Scotland. I am bewildered at the view some people have that we are some kind of enlightened nation where those in power work to no agenda, hold no bias or prejudices, and treat everyone equally. 

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  12. I've lived in England for many years now but I don't recognise the Scotland Upthehoops goes on about thankfully.

    I grew up in Aberdeen and have lived in Inverness and Edinburgh. All great places to live and if there was an underlying bigotry I certainly didn't experience it.

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  13. Bill19038th March 2019 at 08:36

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    You may not have experienced bigotry, but that doesn't mean it did not, or does not exist. It affected me in my employment before foreign owners came in and if you don't think it has an influence in football governance and media reporting then I think you should look harder. Over 80% of Grade 1 Refs supporting Rangers and most from Lanarkshire tells me much. However it is white collar bigotry which worries me more. Perhaps MPs so concerned about it could look inwards and ask why a Catholic has never been good enough to be Prime Minister, or indeed First Minister of Scotland. They will tell you there is no barrier, while ignoring the obvious glass ceiling. 

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  14. Bill1903 8th March 2019 at 08:36

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    I've lived in England for many years now but I don't recognise the Scotland Upthehoops goes on about thankfully.

    I grew up in Aberdeen and have lived in Inverness and Edinburgh. All great places to live and if there was an underlying bigotry I certainly didn't experience it.

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    All I can say is lucky you then I have experienced this crap all my life and learned how to fight from primary school. Not a good experience being the only Catholic in a non-denomination school.

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  15. I will compromise.  What about we all bring in SL except for the big two?  Then at least I'd be able to continue my support for the Dons in the knowledge that they are taking responsibility for the behaviour of the crowd at their games.  Arrest the offenders and force the clubs into doing something other than spout platitudes.

    If conspiracy is a genuine factor in not doing anything surely that shows how outrageously influential the whole sectarian pish is on our game never mind our society.  Time to shove it rather than live with it I suggest.

     

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  16. Upthehoops @10.18

    Regarding becoming Prime Minister. The Act of Settlement 1701 certainly precludes a Catholic monarch but doesn’t prevent a Catholic becoming Prime Minister. That there hasn’t officially been a Catholic PM is a result of constitutional precedent. It could be argued that Tony Blair was in fact a Catholic PM even though he had not formally entered into the faith and did not do so until he was out of office. Ever the political animal he was well aware how an open declaration would be received in certain quarters. 

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  17. upthehoops 8th March 2019 at 10:18

    You may have experienced bigotry and that is wholly unacceptable, but that doesn't mean it is all pervasive as you suggest /imply.

    I am not denying there are issues and questions to be asked  but I have Irish ancestry and was brought up a catholic and have had no issues whatsoever in my life.

    In football terms I object to the loyalist/unionist sectarian guff from the dafties at Tynecastle but also do not want to hear the some of the nonsense from Celtic fans when they come to visit.

    49 Championships, 38 Scottish Cups, 18 League Cups, A European Cup and three other Euro finals.

    Not bad for being the oppressed.

    As for the politics angle, in terms of wanting a Catholic UK Prime Minister the recent leading 'Catholic lights' are the likes of Jacob Rees Mogg and Ann Widicombe. Add to that Iain Duncan Smith (ex Tory Party leader)  and Damien Green (currently second in command as First Secretary of State). I wouldn't trust them go for a pint of milk let alone run the country.

    Tony Blair of course converted to Catholicism after being in the top job but who knows what religious zeal drove him to dabbling in the middle-east and co-operating with the hard Christian right of America.

    Tony Gallagher, Editor-in-chief of The Sun (and previously of the Mail) is a catholic. Any evidence of compassionate Catholicism seeping out of those publications?

    In Scotland Jim Murphy is someone who could have perhaps taken a stab at the First Minister but his dismal performance leading the Scottish Labour in the 2015 UK election saw the SNP win 56 of the 59 seats. His Catholicism didn't help negate the fact he was useless.

    I am afraid that many things don't work in the UK and Scotland because too many incompetents get into positions of power and religion bias or persecution is not necessarily a factor.

     

     

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  18. "BREAKING" from the DR, so must be true…

    "Alfredo Morelos signs another new Rangers deal as he hails 'special' club

    The Colombian striker has put to pen on a new contract extension that will keep him at Ibrox until 2023…"

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    And this is a first: well played Level42!

    No really.

    Grab control of the narrative and stop the social media ridicule.

    A good news story for the bears just before a tricky game against Hibs tonight, and Aberdeen in the cup next week.

     

    Doesn't matter if Morelos has signed an extension or not.

    And why would he if he wants an EPL move?

    He might have agreed something else though?

    Creates positive headlines. 

    When do ST's go on sale at Ibrox again?

     

    And in the meantime TRFC can still hawk Morelos around any clubs with money.

    Level42 can still generate p!sh headlines in the SMSM with 'scouting stories' and interest in Morelos from all the big clubs.

    But, King can publicly shout:

    "We don't want to sell Morelos…honest.  He has a new contract…honest."

     

    So, good effort there Traynor.

    cheeky

     
    [Suppose an intrepid journalist could ask the SFA if a new contract has indeed been lodged with their relevant department? Well, we all know that any / all player contracts copies MUST be lodged at Hampden, and that the SFA is really, really strict about this…]

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  19. Re. The Morelos contract extension.

     

    Maybe all this touting him around has backfired and as a £20m striker he has demanded a suitable wage rise. Sevco happy to pay him the extra in the knowledge it will only be for a few months????

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  20. I think it just might be that the agent of Señor Morelos has been reading the Scottish papers and listening to ClydeSSB and has negotiated a better deal for his client. I don’t think he’s now on a par with Jermaine Defoe though.

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  21. wottpi8th March 2019 at 12:04

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    My point does not surround the competency of the Catholic politicians you mention. You could have the best one around but there is clearly an unwritten rule which stops them getting to the very top, just like there is clearly an unwritten rule which makes it very difficult for a Celtic fan to get to a grade 1 Referee. There is a lot that would have to change to convince me that some of the foxes in Government and the SFA should get the key to the strict liability henhouse! 

    As for some of the stuff some of the Celtic fans were singing at Tynecastle, you wont get any argument from me. No place for it at all. 

     

     

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  22. 'Jingso.Jimsie 6th March 2019 at 11:27

     

    I wonder if Morelos' agents, World In Motion, have made representations to TRFC for a large increase in their client's remuneration?

     

     

    If not, why not? He's a £20m footballer after all angrymailenlightened'

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    https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/rangers/i-have-come-to-realise-how-special-this-club-is-alfredo-morelos-signs-new-rangers-deal-until-2023

     

    Gosh! Imagine that! Hooda thunk it?

     

    Well done, Stewart Robertson. A hubristic, throwaway remark in New Zealand is going to cost TRFC how much?

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  23. Re-Morelos, there was a claim made on Twitter his contract had a buy out clause which didn't suit Rangers, so that may be the reason for a new one. Quite why they think he is worth £20m is beyond me though. 

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  24. I can't decide whether Stewart Fisher's tongue was firmly in his cheek or not when he wrote this in the Herald:

     

    'But quite apart from anything else, he has the capacity to be a game-changing financial deal for Rangers – along the lines of the Jean-Alain Boumsong transfer – when he eventually is sold.'

     

    The Boumsong transfers were indeed 'game-changing' for RFC, particularly when the City of London police became involved.

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  25. I wonder why a player who wants to move to a bigger league would sign a new contract at his current club rather than threaten to let his contract run down until he goes for free.

     

    Why would his agent advise him to do this unless he is of the opinion that an increased wage at his current club is the best deal his client is likely to get?

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  26. upthehoops 8th March 2019 at 15:22

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    I doubt they think anything of the sort, good thing to put out there for the fans though.

    Like a non-existent £5.2m profit.

    Or "breaking even" on an EBIDTA basis.

    From the people who brought you a £9m bid from China turned down, whilst losing money hand over fist.

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  27. Bill1903 8th March 2019 at 13:26

     

    I wasn't saying it doesn't happen just that it's a West of Scotland thing in the main.

    It really does hold the country back

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    I believe you mean anywhere west of the east coast in the main.

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  28. Well said Stevie Clark ……….. although I'm not sure if the Kilmarnock Board supports your wishes.

    Steve Clarke has called on football's governing bodies to step up to the plate and deal with the rise in unacceptable behaviour that had marred Scottish football this season.

    The Kilmarnock boss has previously spoken out about sectarian abuse and responded when asked about recent instances when bottles and coins have been thrown from the crowd.

    Clarke made it clear that while those in the dugout had strong views on supporters' conduct, it was clear to him that any action had to come from the Scottish FA and SPFL. 

    If the governing bodies failed to stamp out the problem, then he saw no reason why the government wouldn't step in.

    "You keep asking football managers and coaches about what's happening," he said. "It's not really our job is it?

    "We can't do anything about it. It's not in our hands. We don't want to hear or see any racism, sectarianism, homophobia.

    "We don't want bottles thrown, we don't want coins thrown, we don't want anything thrown.

    "We want people to walk up to a football match without feeling threatened and we want them to walk home without being threatened. But we can't do anything about it.

    "You keep asking the football managers but it's not our job.

    "The authorities, the lawmakers, the law enforcers… they have to step up and do their job.

    "I think [the football authorities] should get first crack at it. If they don't do their job then the government should step in, yeah.

    "It's up to the people who run the game to put their house in order."

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  29. Homunculus 8th March 2019 at 16:54
    From the people who brought you a £9m bid from China turned down, whilst losing money hand over fist.
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    If i remember correct, and only happy to be corrected. Did it not eventually peak at £11m bid from China?

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  30. 'Allyjambo 8th March 2019 at 16:31

     

    I wonder why a player who wants to move to a bigger league would sign a new contract at his current club rather than threaten to let his contract run down until he goes for free.

     

    Why would his agent advise him to do this unless he is of the opinion that an increased wage at his current club is the best deal his client is likely to get?'

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    Stewart Robertson dropped a ricket in NZ & gave Morelos' representatives carte blanche to look for a mid-contract improvement in terms. That's what's happened & a pay rise for Morelos is also an increased commission for his agents. TRFC's only bargaining card was to request an increase in the length of his contract. The fact that the contract has increased from three to four years to run is moot.

     

    Both World In Motion & TRFC know that Morelos will be sold before the contract expires & probably not for the oft-mentioned £20m. An extra few quid every month until he leaves isn't to be passed up.

     

    (Actually, I wonder if Morelos is, after this new deal, at the peak of his earnings curve? It's possible, I suppose!)

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  31. StevieBC 8th March 2019 at 14:10
    And this is a first: well played Level42!

    No really.

    Grab control of the narrative and stop the social media ridicule.

    A good news story for the bears just before a tricky game against Hibs tonight, and Aberdeen in the cup next week.
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    Wonder what Aberdeen player will be linked with a summer move to ibrox before next week’s game.

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  32. Jingso.Jimsie 8th March 2019 at 19:35
    Stewart Robertson dropped a ricket in NZ & gave Morelos’ representatives carte blanche to look for a mid-contract improvement in terms. That’s what’s happened & a pay rise for Morelos is also an increased commission for his agents. TRFC’s only bargaining card was to request an increase in the length of his contract. The fact that the contract has increased from three to four years to run is moot.

    Both World In Motion & TRFC know that Morelos will be sold before the contract expires & probably not for the oft-mentioned £20m. An extra few quid every month until he leaves isn’t to be passed up.
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    An increase on the ibrox wage bill. Oh! Dear.

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  33. shug 8th March 2019 at 20:46
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    Hibs fan on the park just before half time having a go at Tavernier this is getting way out of control.
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    The question is, who let it get out of control?

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  34. shug 8th March 2019 at 20:46

    Hibs fan on the park just before half time having a go at Tavernier this is getting way out of control.

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    Just heard Leeann Dempster say all the right things in a radio interview and, most importantly, that "everything is on the table".

    Predictably in the studio, there remained a naysayer, questioning SL, a possible points deduction (as if that was the only sanction) and the possibility of an opposing fan causing trouble.

    The person responsible is in custody and will be banned for life from Easter Road – Good! Get the club to seek a maximum sentence when he comes up in court.  John Wilson, who assaulted Lennon was sentenced to 8 months. Give him something similar.

    I haven't seen the game (I was at a Lowland League match), so didn't see what happened with Tavernier. Let's say that he was shaken by the incident and didn't perform in the second half, contributing to Rangers losing their lead. Is the deduction of a point justifiable in a SL sense? I'm not saying that it is or it isn't, but I'd put it out there as a potential sanction for recurring incidents.

     

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  35. easyJambo 8th March 2019 at 22:16
    I haven’t seen the game (I was at a Lowland League match), so didn’t see what happened with Tavernier. Let’s say that he was shaken by the incident and didn’t perform in the second half, contributing to Rangers losing their lead. Is the deduction of a point justifiable in a SL sense?
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    Not for me. The Hibs players fought hard for that point, why should some clown be allowed the taken away of the point the players on the field had to fight hard for. The Hibs players had some control of what they could do on the pitch to gain that point but the players have no control over a clown running onto the track side.

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  36. Cluster One 8th March 2019 at 22:27

    Not for me. The Hibs players fought hard for that point, why should some clown be allowed the taken away of the point the players on the field had to fight hard for. The Hibs players had some control of what they could do on the pitch to gain that point but the players have no control over a clown running onto the track side.

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    I accept your view, but at what point does physical intimidation or even harm to opposing players by "fans" become a problem that merits a game being abandoned, replayed, or points awarded to the victims (of say an assault)?

    I fear that if no effective action is taken, then someone will end but getting seriously hurt. That could just as easily be a fan, a player, an official or a steward.

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  37. Jingso.JimsieJingso.Jimsie 8th March 2019 at 19:35 4 1 Rate This 'Allyjambo 8th March 2019 at 16:31 I wonder why a player who wants to move to a bigger league would sign a new contract at his current club rather than threaten to let his contract run down until he goes for free. Why would his agent advise him to do this unless he is of the opinion that an increased wage at his current club is the best deal his client is likely to get?' ############################################# Stewart Robertson dropped a ricket in NZ & gave Morelos' representatives carte blanche to look for a mid-contract improvement in terms. That's what's happened & a pay rise for Morelos is also an increased commission for his agents. TRFC's only bargaining card was to request an increase in the length of his contract. The fact that the contract has increased from three to four years to run is moot. Both World In Motion & TRFC know that Morelos will be sold before the contract expires & probably not for the oft-mentioned £20m. An extra few quid every month until he leaves isn't to be passed up. (Actually, I wonder if Morelos is, after this new deal, at the peak of his earnings curve? It'spossible, I suppose!)

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    I get what you say, Jingso, but can't understand why TRFC would feel they had to give him a better contract whatever they say about his value – he was, after all, on a contract that he'd been happy to sign not so long ago. Clubs bum up their players continually and don't feel the need to pay them more, especially if they believe a sale is imminent, especially while they have a few years left on that contract and no need to extend it to ensure they get full value for the player.

     

    Putting up his wages hardly makes him more saleable, while the player has tied himself to a longer deal which could keep him at Ibrox longer than he wants if, as most would expect, he has ambitions to play at a higher level.

     

    I just wonder if his agent has been sniffing around other leagues and has discovered that no one is all that interested and so has decided that getting a better, extended, deal is the best option for him and his player.

     

    As ever, though, strange things seem to happen at Ibrox.

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  38. "I’m interested in the one decision that’s cost us three points tonight. The referee is five yards away from it and it’s a blatant foul, 10 times out of 10, 100 times out of 100 [on Tavernier]. You can talk about VAR, talk about supporting referees, but it’s impossible to support a referee if he cant give a foul five yards away.

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    Will this be another ref who will not referee sevco matches.

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  39. easyJambo 8th March 2019 at 22.36

    " .. then someone will end but getting seriously hurt. That could just as easily be a fan, a player, an official or a steward."

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    I think Tavernier showed self-restraint to a degree that I don't think even at my age I could have managed! 

    The minute that idiot  raised his hand to him, I was hoping Tavernier would , in self-defence, aim a footballer's powerful kick at his privy parts, and put him down, very painfully.

    Opposing players 'assaulting' each other on the pitch  is one thing: an assault from some 'nutcase' out of the crowd ( and who knows-maybe a  real mentally ill person in need of professional help,but capable of anything?) is something very different.

     

     

     

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  40. Ex Ludo 8th March 2019 at 11:56

    Regarding becoming Prime Minister. The Act of Settlement 1701 certainly precludes a Catholic monarch but doesn’t prevent a Catholic becoming Prime Minister. That there hasn’t officially been a Catholic PM is a result of constitutional precedent. It could be argued that Tony Blair was in fact a Catholic PM even though he had not formally entered into the faith and did not do so until he was out of office. Ever the political animal he was well aware how an open declaration would be received in certain quarters. 

    =======================

    I am well aware there is no official barrier to a Catholic becoming Prime Minister. However, there is clearly no chance of one ever making the grade. There was clearly a time a woman could not make it but that barrier is long broken, and rightly so. However, as long as the underlying prejudice against Catholicism exists at that level in both the Scottish and English Parliaments then declarations against bigotry by MPs and MSPs has a hollow ring in my view. I realise not everyone holds religious views and I fully respect that, but let there be no doubts that eradicating white collar prejudice against Catholicism, and groups associated with Catholicism has some way to go, especially in Scotland.  I make no apologies for posting this link again. This clown was in charge of policy at a hugely prominent Scottish newspaper for years. I doubt very much he is alone, and it is only about 3-4 years ago STV actually had him on as some kind of respected voice.  Says much. 

    https://www.therangersstandard.co.uk/index.php/articles/rfc-politics/136-rangers-protestantism-and-scottish-society

     

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  41. I heard earlier today  a little clip of Leeann's justifiable anger.

    But, surely, some of the anger must have come from some feeling of personal guilt for allowing a fan incursion-which should, one would think, be to some extent easier to prevent than a sleekit coin-throwing or bottle-throwing episode?

    Swearing to wreak vengeance on a guilty fan whose progress from his seat might have/ought to have been seen by stewards is scarcely an adequate response from a CEO. 

    There was a time (how long ago was it?) when , at fairly 'unimportant' but large crowd games the whole circumference of a pitch was patrolled by the plod , plodding stolidly round at intervals of about fifteen yards from each other, with a sergeant or two striding round in the opposite direction .

    It may now be time for the big clubs to forget about using 'stewards' and accepting that they have to pay increased policing costs.

     

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  42. 'Allyjambo 8th March 2019 at 22:39

     

    I get what you say, Jingso, but can't understand why TRFC would feel they had to give him a better contract whatever they say about his value – he was, after all, on a contract that he'd been happy to sign not so long ago. Clubs bum up their players continually and don't feel the need to pay them more, especially if they believe a sale is imminent, especially while they have a few years left on that contract and no need to extend it to ensure they get full value for the player.'

    ################################################

     

    Morelos' agents had an 'open goal' after Robertson's injudicious statement & they did what they're supposed to do: they got more money for their client & for themselves. That's 1-0 Morelos & WIM. 

     

    TRFC then claim they've equalised by extending the contract for an extra year. It's the way that the club gets some kudos/feelgood factor out of the situation. But (and here goes!) it may have suited WIM to extend the contract anyway depending on what a) the old contract contained & b) what the new contract contains.

     

    'Whatiffery' follows: 

     

    What if Morelos' previous contract had a buy-out clause of (say) £5m? TRFC's '£20m' asset could be bought for a quarter of their valuation? That's not good for TRFC financially or WIM/Morelos' future percentage from any transfer & the contract would need to be revised. 

     

    What if the 'cost' to Morelos & WIM to change the buy-out upwards (£10m? £15m? £20m?) to benefit both TRFC & themselves was an additional year on his TRFC contract at improved terms? 

     

    Apologies for the rather speculative, rambling post…

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  43. I'm not sure if Dempster will follow through on closing a part of the ground once her anger/shame subsides and that's fair enough.  I know some Hibees don't like her (I have no opinion) but you can see how pissed off she is with happenings at her own club.  The thing is should she not close it down because it punishes the innocent?  Crimes have consequences, that's a fact.  I also believe that we are dangerously mixing up unacceptable and unlawful behaviour with being able to watch a game of fitba: an entertainment that has unfortunately transgressed into being some sort of tribal affair way past healthy competition.  Public performances and the participation of the public (especially when it's a commercial enterprise) have no preferential rights compared to the requirements the rest of us have to comply with. 

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  44. Club Statement: Disciplinary Hearing

    Sat, 9th Mar 2019 8:15am

    The Club attended a disciplinary hearing yesterday where a sub-committee of the SPFL Board charged Clyde FC with playing an ineligible player (Declan Fitzpatrick) in two Ladbrokes League Two matches:
    •Saturday, 16 February 2019 – Clyde v Albion Rovers (1-0)
    •Saturday, 23 February 2019 – Queen’s Park v Clyde (1-1)

    Clyde FC admitted breaching SPFL Rules and were sanctioned as follows:
    1.Club reprimanded, warned as to future conduct and fined £1500 (£1000 suspended until 30 June 2020)
    2.The original match results were also annulled and the outcome of the matches recorded as follows:

    16 February 2019 – Clyde v Albion Rovers (0-3)
    23 February 2019 – Queen’s Park v Clyde (3-0)

    The three points for a win were awarded to Albion Rovers and Queen’s Park respectively, and the four points previously awarded to Clyde were withdrawn.

    Club Chairman, David Dishon commented:

    “We are deeply disappointed with the outcome of yesterday’s hearing as, despite the fact that we admitted the breach of the SPFL rules, we feel that we put forward a robust and cogent case as part of our defence. The case concerned a player, Declan Fitzpatrick, who has been registered with Clyde since September 2018 and was recently on loan at Clydebank.

    “The breach occurred as a result of a genuine oversight and a gap in the administrative procedures. This error was not the fault of any individual.

    “We feel that the sanction imposed was unprecedentedly harsh.

    “As a result of yesterday’s outcome, we have instigated a full review of our roles & responsibilities and logistics in match day operations and we have put in place additional checking procedures to ensure there is no repeat of this breach.

    “I understand that the supporters will share our devastation at this news, but we have to try to stayed focused on the rest of the season. For that reason, the Board and I have rejected the offer of two directors to resign from their position.

    “Promotion is still a realistic target and that remains our priority. We will continue to give the management and the players our support as they push for promotion.

    “The Club now has seven days to decide whether or not to appeal the decision and we will take stock over the weekend and consider our next action. We will make no further comment until the end of this process.”
    ………………..
    One for Mr Bryson

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  45. Cluster one….

    glad you posted that C1.

    i was going to stick up a link.

    good to see the authorities still know how to deal with such despicable – or even accidental and bureaucratic – discrepancies in the registration of players.

    where would we be if clubs or clumpanies didn’t abide by basic rules?

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  46. Jingso.Jimsie 9th March 2019 at 10:36 1 0 Rate This 'Allyjambo 8th March 2019 at 22:39 I get what you say, Jingso, but can't understand why TRFC would feel they had to give him a better contract whatever they say about his value – he was, after all, on a contract that he'd been happy to sign not so long ago. Clubs bum up their players continually and don't feel the need to pay them more, especially if they believe a sale is imminent, especially while they have a few years left on that contract and no need to extend it to ensure they get full value for the player.' ################################################ Morelos' agents had an 'open goal' after Robertson's injudicious statement & they did what they're supposed to do: they got more money for their client & for themselves. That's 1-0 Morelos & WIM. TRFC then claim they've equalised by extending the contract for an extra year. It's the way that the club gets some kudos/feelgood factor out of the situation. But (and here goes!) it may have suited WIM to extend the contract anyway depending on what a) the old contract contained & b) what the new contract contains. 'Whatiffery' follows: What if Morelos' previous contract had a buy-out clause of (say) £5m? TRFC's '£20m' asset could be bought for a quarter of their valuation? That's not good for TRFC financially or WIM/Morelos' future percentage from any transfer & the contract would need to be revised. What if the 'cost' to Morelos & WIM to change the buy-out upwards (£10m? £15m? £20m?) to benefit both TRFC & themselves was an additional year on his TRFC contract at improved terms? Apologies for the rather speculative, rambling post…

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    I have to admit, I've no idea what Robertson said, but I can't imagine any situation where an injudicious remark, no matter what was said, could lead to any business having to increase an employees wages.

     

    Even in a situation where someone is named employee of the year, with the CEO going over the top and declaring him/her the greatest salesperson in the world and stating, categorically, that they deserve an increased salary, there would be no obligation to give them a more lucrative contract. Only fear of losing such a good worker could possibly force an improved contract. But then, unlike the Morelos situation, most employees are free to leave, with only varying lengths of notice to deal with, while Morelos was tied to TRFC for a longer period than he is likely to remain there.

     

    It seems to me that, not only do TRFC's mouthpieces talk dangerous bollocks more often than at any other club, they seem to lose out financially at an alarming rate whenever they do.

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  47. Re: Strict liability,I too have my reservations mainly who watches the watchers. Having seen the incident concerning the assault on Tavernier last night then the need for some kind of action is  pressing. I would like to see the police become more involved and suggest that such incursions should force the hosting club to double their spend on proper policing (not stewarding) for the following three/four games regardless of the profile of the matches.It punishes the club and puts the emphasis for controlling unruly/criminal behaviour back where it belongs.

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  48. View Comment Cluster One 9th March 2019 at 11:13 5 0 Rate This Club Statement: Disciplinary Hearing Sat, 9th Mar 2019 8:15am The Club attended a disciplinary hearing yesterday where a sub-committee of the SPFL Board charged Clyde FC with playing an ineligible player (Declan Fitzpatrick) in two Ladbrokes League Two matches: •Saturday, 16 February 2019 – Clyde v Albion Rovers (1-0) •Saturday, 23 February 2019 – Queen’s Park v Clyde (1-1) Clyde FC admitted breaching SPFL Rules and were sanctioned as follows: 1.Club reprimanded, warned as to future conduct and fined £1500 (£1000 suspended until 30 June 2020) 2.The original match results were also annulled and the outcome of the matches recorded as follows: 16 February 2019 – Clyde v Albion Rovers (0-3) 23 February 2019 – Queen’s Park v Clyde (3-0) The three points for a win were awarded to Albion Rovers and Queen’s Park respectively, and the four points previously awarded to Clyde were withdrawn. Club Chairman, David Dishon commented: “We are deeply disappointed with the outcome of yesterday’s hearing as, despite the fact that we admitted the breach of the SPFL rules, we feel that we put forward a robust and cogent case as part of our defence. The case concerned a player, Declan Fitzpatrick, who has been registered with Clyde since September 2018 and was recently on loan at Clydebank. “The breach occurred as a result of a genuine oversight and a gap in the administrative procedures. This error was not the fault of any individual. “We feel that the sanction imposed was unprecedentedly harsh. “As a result of yesterday’s outcome, we have instigated a full review of our roles & responsibilities and logistics in match day operations and we have put in place additional checking procedures to ensure there is no repeat of this breach. “I understand that the supporters will share our devastation at this news, but we have to try to stayed focused on the rest of the season. For that reason, the Board and I have rejected the offer of two directors to resign from their position. “Promotion is still a realistic target and that remains our priority. We will continue to give the management and the players our support as they push for promotion. “The Club now has seven days to decide whether or not to appeal the decision and we will take stock over the weekend and consider our next action. We will make no further comment until the end of this process.” ……………….. One for Mr Bryson

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    There's so much to say about this that shows up the LNS decision for the corrupt farce that it was, but there's one thing I'd like to cover, though without knowing the full details of how this error came about.

    There are two games involved here, so at least one must have been played after the player's registration was accepted and the error not recognised. With the player's ineligibility not recognised (the first game), surely, under Bryson, that game, at the very least, must have been covered by the SFA's own working practices!

    Also.

    The following quote from the statement I think is actually quite telling. Telling in two ways.

    1, I have the impression that it is a reference to Rangers deliberate cheating, and,

    2, the club are afraid to use the LNS decision to frame their defence.

    The breach occurred as a result of a genuine oversight and a gap in the administrative procedures. This error was not the fault of any individual."

    A decision was made in Scottish football, in a case of deliberate mis-registration, that could/should be used by clubs to get off lightly with charges of breaches in the rules surrounding player registration. Clearly, however, clubs falling foul of those rules are afraid to use that decision because of the fallout that would almost certainly follow.

    Regardless of what we all might feel individually about Strict Liability, there is clear justification for the belief that one club, in particular, could/would be treated differently when major breaches occur, while the necessary 'example' will be made against 'smaller' clubs!

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  49. The Clyde decision is another shameful one by the SPFL demonstrating how "big teams" are given leniency when compared to punishments handed out to "wee teams".

    Hearts were docked two points in the League Cup earlier this season following a similar administrative error.  Hearts had won the game 2-1. There was no reversal of the result as such, which meant that Hearts could still qualify from their group on goal difference by beating ICT in their final game, which they duly did. 

    Had the Hearts result been reversed and awarded to Cove, then Hearts would have been unable to qualify.

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  50. Allyjambo 9th March 2019 at 12:40

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    Iirc Bryson claimed that although the Registration papers for RFC(IL) players had not been completed correctly as the EBT payments were not declared, the players were not ineligible to play as this was not known by the SFA at the time and their assumed eligibility could not be revoked retrospectively. In effect, players could only be ineligible if the club realised its error and notified the SFA prior to the match taking place – a complete absurdity. It's not clear from the above statement, but it appears that if a club now reports an oversight after the match, then they are found guilty and punished. Bryson should be in touch immediately with his colleaagues at the SFA and Clyde to correct this misinterpretation of the rules and to remove sanctions imposed on Clyde.

    I welcome any corrections on my interpretation of the Bryson statement.

     

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  51. Stupid quote of the week.

    When talking of TRFC's result from last night, Steven Gerrard said that his club were 'not in a title race because of nights like tonight.'

    Well, Mr Gerrard, Hearts are not in a title race for exactly the same reason (they've just had more such nights – and days), as is the same for Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, Hibs…not winning as often as the club that eventually wins the title is the only reason any club isn't in a title race. Even then, the club that is in a title race all of it's own has also had nights, or days, like TRFC had last night, just less often.

    '

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  52. Allyjambo 9th March 2019 at 13:24

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    I take it he has given up, in spite of the fact they are only 7 points behind (albeit Celtic have a game in hand … but it is Aberdeen). With two games to play against the leaders (a potential 6 point turnaround) and plenty of other games to play.

    Know Surrender. 

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  53.  When the “fan” got onto the track last night the incident highlighted the poor standard of stewarding evident in many grounds. The steward standing at the bottom of the passageway seemed blissfully unaware of the “fan” heading towards him and then breezing past him before vaulting over the barrier until it was too late. Clubs seem to be over dependent on people on minimum wage and probably zero training to keep the crowd in order. Simply wearing a yellow jacket does not deter anyone and from the stewards point of view, minimum wages aren’t worth the risk of getting a sore face. Before fines and stands are closed it would be easier if the Clubs themselves were required to employ a coterie of stewards (pro-rata to the size of their average crowd) and ensure that these employees were properly trained and managed. These could then be supplemented by additional stewarding from external companies. 

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  54. Finance director Odam took over responsibility for the preparation and signing of player contracts from secretary Ogilvie and discussed the mechanics of the side letters with McMillan and group internal solicitor David Horne.
    In a witness statement, Odam told the commission: ‘I did not believe the letters had to be lodged with the football authorities as part of the player registration process.
    I understood lodging the letters could have been misinterpreted as indicating a contractual commitment to the player — thus potentially prejudicing the effectiveness of the scheme.’
    In layman’s terms, Odam clearly feared that telling the football authorities about the arrangement might alert the tax authorities to something which might — and did — bring awkward questions.
    The decision to keep quiet about the side letters was premeditated and deliberate, as the commission report makes clear. ‘A decision was taken that the side letters need not be, or should not be, disclosed,’ it goes on.
    ‘The evidence of Mr Odam indicates a view amongst management of Oldco that it might have been detrimental to the desired tax treatment of the payments being made by Oldco to have disclosed the existence of side letters to the football authorities.’
    The Nimmo Smith commission also considered if Rangers had breached SPL rule D1.11 concerning the fielding of ineligible players

    Here the testimony of SFA head of registrations Sandy Bryson proved crucial.
    Bryson told the three-man panel that once a player is registered by the governing body, he remains so until his registration is revoked. Even if Rangers were guilty of breaching the rules on payments to players and of non-disclosure of payments, therefore, the 91 players were legitimately registered.
    And, as SPL lawyer Rod McKenzie accepted, there was no way of retrospectively revoking a player’s registration due to a breach of rules. Rangers, then, did not field an ineligible player and breached no rules there.
    It would be gratifying to think all of this brings a long-running, snarling episode towards closure.
    That, in line with Charles Green’s wishes expressed in the wake of the report’s release, Scottish football will now climb from its knees and focus on the future rather than the past. Yet only in the world of the totally naive could that be possible
    ……………
    A small reminder of Bryson

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  55. Allyjambo 9th March 2019 at 12:40
    A decision was made in Scottish football, in a case of deliberate mis-registration, that could/should be used by clubs to get off lightly with charges of breaches in the rules surrounding player registration. Clearly, however, clubs falling foul of those rules are afraid to use that decision because of the fallout that would almost certainly follow.
    ……………
    We have to ask ourselves what are clubs afraid off. the only fallout would come to the governing bodies, and that can’t be a bad thing

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  56. Just to be clear about Bryson:

    https://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/CommissiondecisionRangers.pdf

    [86] Evidence was given by Alexander Bryson, Head of Registrations at the SFA, who described the registration process. During the course of his evidence he explained that, once a player had been registered with the SFA, he remained registered unless and until his registration was revoked. Accordingly, even if there had been a breach of the SFA registration procedures, such as a breach of SFA Article 12.3, the registration of a player was not treated as being invalid from the outset, and stood unless and until it was revoked.

    [87] Mr McKenzie explained to us that SPL Rule D1.13 had hitherto been understood to mean that if, at the time of registration, a document was not lodged as required, the consequence was that a condition of registration was broken and the player automatically became ineligible to play in terms of SPL Rule D1.11. He accepted however that there was scope for a different construction of the rule, to the effect that, as the lodging of the document in question was a condition of registration, the registration of the player would be liable to revocation, with the consequence that the player would thereafter become ineligible to play. He accepted that no provision of the Rules enabled the Board of the SPL retrospectively to terminate the registration of the player. It became apparent from his submissions that Mr McKenzie was not pressing for a finding that Issue 3(c), together with the concluding words of Issue 3(b), had been proved.

    [88] In our opinion, this was a correct decision by Mr McKenzie. There is every reason why the rules of the SFA and the SPL relating to registration should be construed and applied consistently with each other. Mr Bryson’s evidence about the position of the SFA in this regard was clear. In our view, the Rules of the SPL, which admit of a construction consistent with those of the SFA, should be given that construction. All parties concerned – clubs, players and footballing authorities – should be able to proceed on the faith of an official register. This means that a player’s registration should generally be treated as standing unless and until revoked. There may be extreme cases in which there is such a fundamental defect that the registration of a player must be treated as having been invalid from the outset. But in the kind of situation that we are dealing with here we are satisfied that the registration of the Specified Players with the SPL was valid from the outset, and accordingly that they were eligible to play in official matches. There was therefore no breach of SPL Rule D1.11.

    [89] For these reasons we are not satisfied that any breach of the Rules has been established in terms of Issue 3(c), taken in conjunction with the concluding words of Issue 3(b) quoted above. This is an important finding, as it means that there was no instance shown of Rangers FC fielding an ineligible player.

    We should not accept the LNS conflation between registration and eligibility.

     

    Bryson gave evidence on the question of player registration from an SFA perspective. Evidence which, as far as I can see, was entirely accurate.

     

    The question of eligibility was a matter for the SPL and was conceded quite disgracefully by Rod Mackenzie acting on the SPL's behalf.

     

    The SPL rule was specifically intended to cover the situation that Sandy Bryson (correctly, IMO) described.

     

    If a registration is found to be defective some time after it had originally been accepted as correct, you cannot turn back time to pretend that the player had never been registered in the first place. All the SFA could do was revoke the registration when the defect became known.

     

    The SPL rule was written to deal with both the players' registration AND eligibility. 

     

    The SFA can say that the registrations would not have been made if the full facts were known – but cannot use a time machine to say that the players had not been registered.

     

    The SPL (via Rod Mackenzie) was derelict in it's duty to present a case that accepted that the players had been registered – but nevertheless ineligible to play in official matches.

     

    That Mr Mackenzie and LNS allowed the two things to be conflated is, if I am being kind, incompetent.

     

    On this matter I don't think kindness is an appropriate sentiment.

     

    It was not for Sandy Bryson to explain the SPL rules to LNS. The commission has the rules in front of them. It was up to Mr Mackenzie to ensure that the commission were given a technically correct interpretation.

     

    It was Rod Mackenzie (acting for the SPL) that should be the focus of our concern.

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  57. We perhaps don't know enough about the exact circumstances of the Clyde player to determine whether or not Bryson applies. If I understand correctly the player was not re-registered as a Clyde player following a loan spell, rather than there were flaws in his registration.

    If the SPFL have not received registration documents, then he couldn't have been registered as a Clyde player when the games were played, hence he was deemed ineligible to play in any of their games.

    The Bryson doctrine refers to players for whom registration documents (albeit flawed) have been supplied by a club and accepted by the SPFL (SPL) in good faith.

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  58. Here is an extract from the minutes of an SPL Board meeting following the LNS decision (from JJ)

    “Rod McKenzie summarised the charges brought against Rangers FC over an 11-year period relating to non-disclosure of side letters involving around 50 players. He explained that the (LNS) Commission had found that the SPL was right to consider that SPL Rules had been broken and that OldCo had been found guilty of a breach of those Rules. The Commission had found that OldCo had not, during that period, gained any sporting advantage by the non-disclosure of the documentation. The Commission had also found, based on the evidence and a construction of the Rules, that during the periods in issue the Players were Registered and, therefore, eligible. A financial sanction of £250k had been imposed upon OldCo for failing to disclose the documentation but no sporting sanction had been applied, nor were any penalties imposed on Rangers FC.”

    What I took from that was the Rod McKenzie, on behalf of the SPL, accepted the construction of the rules supplied by the SFA, without question. That seems an incredible stance to take, given that he understood along with the SPL that both the intention and the letter of the SPL rules was clear in his mind and that of the clubs. As Rod McKenzie probably wrote the SPL rules himself, that interpretation should have been a given

    Why he did not challenge the SFA's position by defending his and the club's interpretation of the SPL's rules is a mystery to us all. After all LNS commissioned by the SPL Board to investigate any breach of the SPL's own rules.

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  59. Cluster One 9th March 2019 at 11:13

    from your extract from Clyde's statement:

    "…and we have put in place additional checking procedures to ensure there is no repeat of this breach.'

    **************

    Ah, if only certain EBT recipients in a position and with a duty to do some checking on the ridiculously low earnings reported by arch-cheat SDM to be being paid to some of Europe's best footballers, the whole rotten scheme would have been nipped in the bud, and the cheating exposed! 

    By the Woodwards and Bernsteins of the SMSM.

    (D'ye think?)

    As regards the Brysons and Mackenzies of this world, their names are forever linked in my mind with that of Lord Denning.

     

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  60. EJ

    It is worth remembering that the ignoble lord took great pains to ensure that the commission was conducted as an adversarial process.

    Rod Mackenzie acted for the SPL as the prosecutor and James Mure for Rangers as the defendant.

    There is no suggestion from the commission's report that the SFA (via Bryson) gave any opinion on the SPL's rules.

    On the face of it, it would seem more likely that, as a matter for the defence, Mr Mure (acting for Rangers) would introduce an argument that would seek to conflate the SFA's registration procedures with the SPL's rules on eligibility.

    But, as you say, it was Mr Mackenzie who wrote the SPL rules. He could and should have been able to repel that specious line in short order.

    I genuinely do not believe that the SFA gave any opinion on this at all. From my reading of LNS, Sandy Bryson simply provided a factual run-through of its own registration process.

    The big question is this: who put forward the creatively alternative interpretation of the SPL rules – that effectively let Rangers off the hook? 

    Was it Sandy Bryson? Was it Mr Mure? Was it Lord Nimmo? 

    Or was it Rod Mackenzie himself?

    I know who I think it was.

     

     

     

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  61. Listening to SSB recently, which more than ever is fed the line and sucks it up like a hungry prostitute short on protein, they had a semi sentient guy who phoned in ( to my mind a placeceman) , who said there was a £15M sell on clause in Morelos's new contract.

     

    Within minutes Big DJ had responded by saying he had two calls/texts to say this was absolutely incorrect/wrong/utter nonsense. Hehe.

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  62. Cluster One 9th March 2019 at 19:02 9 0 Rate This Allyjambo 9th March 2019 at 12:40 A decision was made in Scottish football, in a case of deliberate mis-registration, that could/should be used by clubs to get off lightly with charges of breaches in the rules surrounding player registration. Clearly, however, clubs falling foul of those rules are afraid to use that decision because of the fallout that would almost certainly follow.

    ……………

    We have to ask ourselves what are clubs afraid off. the only fallout would come to the governing bodies, and that can’t be a bad thing

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    I think there is much more for clubs, particularly small clubs, to fear in the way of fallout, just ask those of whom Super Ally demanded, 'Who are these people? We have a right to know?'

     

    I believe there is a genuine fear of severe physical abuse amongst those running Scottish football clubs (and the game's governors) should they ever highlight, in any way, the corruption surrounding Rangers (IL) or TRFC.  – and not without good cause.

     

    McCoist knew what he was doing with that statement, and the result was far-reaching and without limit of time. For any other club and it's supporters, it would have been an embarrassment they could never live down, for these two clubs, however, it is seen as an example of just how much of the fabric of Scottish society they are and is worn with pride.

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  63. John Clark 9th March 2019 at 22:47
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    Cluster One 9th March 2019 at 11:13

    from your extract from Clyde’s statement:

    “…and we have put in place additional checking procedures to ensure there is no repeat of this breach.’

    Ah, if only certain EBT recipients in a position and with a duty to do some checking on the ridiculously low earnings reported by arch-cheat SDM to be being paid to some of Europe’s best footballers, the whole rotten scheme would have been nipped in the bud, and the cheating exposed!
    ………………..
    JC
    Andy Goram £1000 a week? Nov 5, 1996.
    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12082308.rangers-star-fined-and-banned-for-drink-driving/

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  64. Allyjambo 10th March 2019 at 09:43
    I think there is much more for clubs, particularly small clubs, to fear in the way of fallout, just ask those of whom Super Ally demanded, ‘Who are these people? We have a right to know?’

    I believe there is a genuine fear of severe physical abuse amongst those running Scottish football clubs (and the game’s governors) should they ever highlight, in any way, the corruption surrounding Rangers (IL) or TRFC. – and not without good cause.
    ………………
    Gary Allan QC did call out Ally for putting him his family and others in danger.Oct 27, 2012.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/ClusterOne2/status/1104705103066468353?p=v
    At what point do clubs start to stand up for themselves and say enough is enough.

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  65. Finally, the SPFL finds a voice, to say ……………………………. not a lot!

    https://stv.tv/sport/football/1436167-spfl-to-take-appropriate-steps-after-pitch-invasion/

    In a statement issued on Sunday afternoon, SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster said: "We utterly condemn the reprehensible behaviour shown by the individual who invaded the pitch ‪on Friday night‬ in the match between Hibernian and Rangers. We welcome the comments made by Hibernian chief executive Leeann Dempster in tackling unacceptable conduct.

    "We will of course review the specific circumstances of that event in conjunction with the match delegate and the police and take any appropriate steps."

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