Comment on Celtic’s Questions to Answer by upthehoops.

    John Clark 26th November 2019 at 09:08


    In a normal society it probably would be foolish to ban the media from the AGM. However the society we live in is far from normal when it comes to how the media report on football matters. As I said, a history of negative coverage of the Celtic AGM would see this very minor shareholder in Celtic absolutely delighted to see them banned from the AGM.  

    I imagine after their guaranteed sycophantic coverage of today's Rangers AGM they will be thirsting for a huge dose of negativity from the Celtic one.

    It's just the way Scotland is. 

    upthehoops Also Commented

    Celtic’s Questions to Answer
    Looks like I was right regarding sycophantic media coverage of the Rangers AGM. 

    Celtic really need to get some convicted tax cheating criminals on the board, preferably ones who have also had the financial cold shoulder. They really need to rack up tens of millions in losses over a few years. They really need to get involved in constant court battles with all and sundry along with the huge cost that entails. They really need to tell everyone their squad is worth £100m more than what no other club has ever offered in the first place. They really need to have an association with an entity which owes the public purse and others tens of millions.

    If they did all that, Celtic would receive fantastically positive coverage from the media at their AGM. Well they clearly would, wouldn't they?

    Celtic’s Questions to Answer
    Corrupt official 26th November 2019 at 01:07

        Unfortunately for the guilty, The Times squirrel had nae legs………….

        Even the useful idiots in the SMSM could hear it's wheel squeaking when they half-heartedly pushed it.


    I wouldn't say it was half hearted in the immediate aftermath of the Times story. Initially the rest of the media went after it like a pack of rabid dogs, until HMRC put their gas at a peep. Worse still, their initial reaction was based on a subjective article which the Times could not stand up.

    Compare that to the media's attitude to Resolution 12. Forget for a moment that the Celtic Board don't seem to want to progress it, as we have often discussed on here. The media were all presented with compelling evidence on this matter some time ago, yet none of them are willing to expose a scandal where others have even gone to the bother of doing all the leg work for them. Whether the Celtic Board want to progress it or not it is a complete dereliction of duty in what the purpose of a free media is for them to ignore it. Why on earth do they not want to call out the SFA, Rangers, and even the Celtic Board on this? Surely Scottish football would be a far better place if governance levels were enhanced to prevent a repeat event?

    So, on to the Celtic AGM tomorrow. Right now we don't know how the Celtic Board will respond to what will be tough, pressing questions from the floor. They are not stupid people so they may well have something up their sleeve – time will tell. However, the media will be in the room and if past reporting is anything to go by the Requisitioners will be ridiculed, rather than having their case explored. Add that to any other sh*t stirring they can conjure up to get their negative headlines. 

    I have never understood why the media are allowed into the Celtic AGM, unless there is a need for listed companies to allow it. I would not allow them near it. There will be plenty of people there to relay proceedings to Celtic fans via social media. Allowing the mainstream media in is akin to inviting the neighbours into your home, only for them to publicly trash you to the rest of the street the next day. 

    Celtic’s Questions to Answer
    StevieBC 25th November 2019 at 11:33


    And according to Level42 – I mean the DR – one of the key points at the AGM will be King's comments on the recent 'allegations' that HMRC blundered with tax bills.


    Will King be foolish enough to antagonise HMRC? They rarely speak out in public but felt moved to go very public in their debunking of the shameful nonsense the Times printed.  Or would King be quite happy to have some digs given that he knows there are several slavering lap dogs writing for the chip wrappers who are willing to repeat anything he says without challenge? 

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    Resolution 12 & The Broken Bond
    I don't know for sure if any SMSM Journalists read this site, although I suspect some will have a look at it from time to time.  Below is a wee reminder to them of something they seem unable to grasp.

    Since Rangers were liquidated in 2012 after illegally cheating the state out of tens of millions, a total of nine clubs have had their names engraved on the three major Scottish football trophies. Step forward Aberdeen, Celtic, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Heart of Midlothian, Hibernian, Kilmarnock, St Johnstone, St Mirren, Ross County. 

    Why am I saying this? Because when several Journalists say they would like to see a different name on the trophy come Sunday it's not really for that reason at all is it, given the spread of names since 2012. Why don't they just be honest and say all they want is for Rangers to win, and Rangers to be the most successful club. They don't really care about anyone else winning. They won't all be like that of course but the majority clearly are. 

    Resolution 12 & The Broken Bond
    John Clark 29th November 2019 at 23:19


    bordersdon 29th November 2019 at 14:58

    '…Winner of semi-final 1 v winner of semi-final 2.'

    upthehoops 29th November 2019 at 15:11

    '..In the interests of fairness it is only right that I confirm..'


    Superb! The sfm.scot blog at its best.

    Well done , gentlemen, in making the effort to establish truth.


    It was also a wee reminder to myself not to get the paranoid heid on so quickly without knowing the full facts!

    Resolution 12 & The Broken Bond
    In the interests of fairness it is only right that I confirm the following after a quick check with the SPFL.

    They have confirmed to me the convention is the final is stated every year as the winner of semi final 1 v the winner of semi final 2 as they are drawn. Fair enough. 

    Resolution 12 & The Broken Bond
    John Clark 29th November 2019 at 14:12

    StevieBC might be right in thinking it's unconscious bias.


    As I said, some will see it as nit picking on my part. From my point of view, being in my late 50's, and having grown up in the West of Scotland, I see it very much as deliberate policy.  Just like when they were covering an end of Hampden, they covered the end that Rangers fans would always occupy if they played there. Other fans would get the covered end if Rangers were not playing, but Celtic fans were left exposed to the elements no matter who they played. I know others on here have raised the point about the national stadium having 'ends' and I can see where they are coming from. However, that doesn't take away the fact that the Rangers support were always better catered for than other fans. I haven't been to Hampden since 2007, and unless there is root and branch reform of the SFA I will never be in it again, which means of course I will never be in it again! Especially as even my own club's board appear quite happy to sit at the back of the bus, as evidenced at the recent AGM. 

    Resolution 12 & The Broken Bond
    John Clark 29th November 2019 at 13:13


    John, the link you provided shows winning teams first. It does not show how the match was billed in terms of who was the 'home' team. As I say I can see no valid reason for it to be Rangers this time, other than the SPFL simply regarding them as the superior club in terms of importance and status. This seems like good old fashioned 'get to the back of the bus' stuff.