Comment on Bad Money? by Finloch.

    Complicity noun

    the fact or condition of being involved with others in an activity that is unlawful or morally wrong.


    Good Luck Auldheid and all the requisitioners.

    I especially hope the real heart of the club i.e. the fans with just a few shares step up and support the move.

    I don't believe that all the SPFL club chairmen were involved in the decisions to back the new club and maintain the Scottish football duopoly just over seven years ago.

    They were not all complicit to the same extent and some felt bullied into giving their support at short notice at the first meeting.

    But I do believe some were very complicit indeed.

    Certainly the ones that Regan, Doncaster and Petrie thought they needed to get their proposals through.

    If I was one of that threesome I'd certainly have wanted Lawwell to be on the inside early doors, involved and therefore supportive and reassuring to the other chairmen.

    His support and involvement in the plan would be much more valuable than the likes of Kenny Cameron of ICT or Roy MacGregor of Ross County or the other rabbits round the table, – those not in the inner sanctum.


    I've said it before. This was all about how certain chairmen and the appointed football administrators saw and see the business that is Scottish football.


    Commercially I'd actually say Lawwell and his boss probably called it right, a short term income hiatus for a medium and longer term gain and the maintenance of the divisive and unique Scottish football monopoly that in reality only helps two clubs.

    But that very commercialism on this one is in my opinion totally contradictory to the very essence of the Celtic club.


    Sadly I don't think there ever has been nor ever will be any appetite to support Res 12 from the powers that be at Celtic and while they may be "open" to seemingly help their bona fide stakeholders they will be doing everything they can to sideline this movement which can only ever be an embarrassment to those in control and also complicit then and now.




    Finloch Also Commented

    Bad Money?
    Thanks John, good blog that should have a wider readership.


    The football authorities currently receive public funds from government, but in a “have your cake and eat it” scenario, they are accountable to no-one but themselves – and that’s how they want to keep it.



    We need to become political.

    Recent Comments by Finloch

    Accountability via Transparency.
    easyJambo 17th May 2019 at 22:17


    There are a raft of shameful statements in Maxwell's response to Bonnyrigg

    “having checked internally, i can confirm that there is no appeal route available for clubs going through the application process. etc etc 


    Thanks for all this stuff EJ.


    The current SFA conclusions and attempts to "manage" the licensing process between the ex juniors coming into the pyramid has been badly handled from the start and is now quite embarrassing as well as being disgraceful.

    It is an insight into an organisation that is truly not fit for purpose.


    Mr Maxwell admitting that his organisations membership criteria actually changed along the way and in particular after the submissions were made (at great costs to the clubs) is quite bizarre and just plain wrong.

    At the last meeting we have been told Mr Petrie allegedly got upset when called out as a proprietor of mis truths.

    I'd say the floor of that particular meeting called it right.


    I note one particular para in the Bonnyrigg reply and wish them all the luck in the world should they choose to follow it because this all deserves more publicity and outfits like the SFA who benefit from public funding should be held to proper account.

    this is however not the end of the road for us, as despite the labyrinthine nature of the different articles and licensing documents, there is still one option open to us which we are seeking guidance on from parties outside of the club whether to pursue.  

    Go for it guys.

    Go for it for all the wee clubs and fans who get treated like second class citizens.

    Go for it knowing that Ian Maxwell would not have wanted Partick Thistle to be treated the way he is now treating these member clubs.

    Go for it knowing that Rod Petrie would not have wanted his childhood club Aberdeen, or his current club Hibs to be treated like this either.


    Ask why are they happy to do to others what they would not have accepted being done to their own clubs.



    Accountability via Transparency.
    easyJambo 9th May 2019 at 22:24

    I've given some thought about how the SFA can resolve the Bonnyrigg (and others) situation.

    The SFA could invoke one of their own precedents to get round the licensing problem, by issuing  a "conditional membership".  I haven't seen a documented process of how to obtain such a membership though, unless it is only written on the back of a few brown envelopes.

    Apparently it was used once, a few years ago, to get round their own rules to permit a new club to join the SFL.  :whistle

    I'm sure it could be adapted for use and documented in a 4-way agreement between the SFA, the Lowland League, East of Scotland League and the club(s).



    Brilliant EJ.


    Scottish Football needs less rule changes at the 11th hour and more 'conditional memberships, and more  Secret 4 Way Agreements to clean up what might otherwise be interpreted as a scam to get £2000 out of prospective Lowland League clubs who have their own grounds and don't want to share with Stirling Albion, Falkirk, Alloa, Gala or whoever.


    Oh and a chief executive who can spell write or there will be compliants about his competence.

    Accountability via Transparency.
    Shyster Flywheel Shyster 9th May 2019 at 14:22

    Finloch 9th May 2019 at 13:50 

    No vacancy for aspirant clubs ever existed.

    Neither Alan Macrae of Cove nor Craig Graham of Spartans the respective and well connected chairmen or others were even given a sniff and may even have been advised not to rock any boats during the period of uncertainty.


    I recall at the time that Craig Graham was questioned by the Edinburgh Evening News about The Spartans applying for the SFL should a place become vacant with the promotion of Dundee to replace Rangers in the SPL.  I thought his response was that they would not apply.  I must have wrongly read between the lines that the SFA had influenced that decision. 




    No I think you are calling it just about right.

    The record shows no vacancy* ever existed for any club to "apply".

    A little bit of paper speculation occurred around the public demise of Rangers FC but the then unholy trinity of football authorities wanted to keep a Rangers Institution as high up the leagues as they could.

    And part of the plan was some well informed, well regarded and also well briefed chairmen not rocking any boats during the period of crisis and instability.

    Quite how the fast forwarding of Charles of Normandy's basket of assets, under the Sevco project, fitted in with the league and association constitutions has always been beyond me.



    But nobody important enough asked the questions then in the stampede to move on and since then Sevco has become Rangers and even organisations like the BBC are not allowed to mention the Sevco name or question the provenance of the truly wondrous transmogrification.


    Accountability via Transparency.
    Shyster Flywheel Shyster 9th May 2019 at 12:44

    Back in 2012 the SFA fixed it so that no other non-league club, especially The Spartans, would go up against Sevco for election to Div. 3 of the then SFL.  If The Spartans had put their name forward, the outcome of the vote of the 39 EFL clubs would have been interesting.      

    The curious thing is that in 2012 there was never a vacancy.

    I have since asked some of the directors of both the two obvious aspirant clubs, Spartans and Cove, and also existing SFL clubs and am certain there was never any opportunity or situation to "invite" clubs to apply in the manner of the previous invitations to apply that brought in clubs like Ross County, Inverness CT,  Elgin City FC, Peterhead Meadowbank Thistle aka Livingston and Annan.


    You might assume that the reason there never was a vacancy was because because The SFA had pre- agreed with all in their inner sanctum that after the intended pre-pack that Rangers had become would purge and cleanse their debts and continue unscathed.


    That didn't quite happen as we know and liquidation was the outcome of the vote by people and companies owed money.


    The 5 way agreement contained a way forward to keep Rangers at the top (and the commercial revenues in place).

     The subsequent rebukes by both the SPL clubs following fan rebellion at season ticket time and then by the SPL clubs (despite the outrageous threat of an "invitees – only" SPL2) was wonderful and we have people like the late Turnbull Hutton to thank.

    So the plan for a no change Rangers after a short long weekend pre-pack failed and in time the previous club became nothing more than a basket of the playing assets and a management team who didn't want to do walking away. 

    They morphed first into The Rangers (Charles Sevco Business) and they would soon replace the Rangers FC in liquidation and play in the 3rd division.

    Oh and they bought the history and all the silverware for £1 or something like that but its all a bit secretive.


    No vacancy for aspirant clubs ever existed.

    Neither Alan Macrae of Cove nor Craig Graham of Spartans the respective and well connected chairmen or others were even given a sniff and may even have been advised not to rock any boats during the period of uncertainty.


    7 years on.

    Did Longmuir and Doncaster and Regan follow the rules as laid out in their constitutions over the acceptance of Sevco into division 3 and the cup game at Brechin as an unseeded entity?


    I'd say they certainly did not but the baddies as John Clarke would call them held rank then and they and their successors are still holding rank today some 7 years on.


    So move along now.

    Nothing to see there and just be glad that Scottish football has the big Glasgow clubs and their 4 times plus a year derbies because that is what fuels the TV money top to bottom. 

    Accountability via Transparency.
    Allowing colts sides as quasi-senior clubs into any league will only strengthen the parent clubs at the expense of their competitors and I just don't buy into the concept of any benefit to smaller clubs of vast travelling supports and turnstiles spinning overtime.


    I really don't care if Colts teams exist in bigger leagues elsewhere like Spain or the Netherlands or who is doing it or why.


    I personally am totally in favour of a genuine open and fair pyramid system (Not the one we currently seem to have),  although it is better than what existed in the past and I wish Cove Rangers well against Berwick as I wish Berwick well against Cove).


    In time I would rather see and indeed expect to see bona-fide community-based clubs from real parts and towns of Scotland like Linlithgow, Bonnyrigg, East Kilbride, Dunbar, Galashiels etc in our leagues in a proper pyramid system and the concurrent development of strategic community based initiatives through the football clubs.


    This is preferable to any colts team from any particular existing member, especially our two dominant teams whose business models sadly rely on recruiting fans from these very same places and not just their own cities.


    A real pyramid structure with a properly integrated national, yet also regional leagues will be good for all as long as those who fall out have a genuine chance to come back.

    Right now I don't think we are even close and I smell another SFA stitch up to protect and strengthen its two vip members.


    The current SFA treatment of the aspirant junior clubs into the Lowland League is also a disgrace.

    This is the league where several clubs already play as lodgers on grounds of existing SPFL clubs to "qualify" for their current licences. 

    The self same Lowland league where currently BSC Glasgow play at Alloa's ground, East Stirling play at Falkirk's,  EduSport play at Gala's and Stirling with all their wonderful sports facilities on campus have just moved back home to play At Stirling Albion's home Forthbank (and who knows one day might amalgamate with the Binos).


    Finally after the demise of the hapless Selkirk and the running of the league for a year with one club less the plan taken last Autumn to relegate  the bottom team seems premature and harsh on Whitehill who would have been second bottom and safe.