Barcabhoy says: April 5, 2014 at 10:25 pm ‘……in my view he – The Scottish Football Monitor

Barcabhoy says: April 5, 2014 at 10:25 pm ‘……in my view he …

Comment on An Honest Game? Convince Us. by John Clark.

Barcabhoy says:
April 5, 2014 at 10:25 pm
‘……in my view he will be fully exposed for what he did to Rangers and to Scottish Football.’
Donegaltim says:
April 5, 2014 at 11:40 pm
‘…..Murray should be publicly disgraced for the shame, hurt and embarrassment he has brought .’
The push has to come from somewhere within the existing systems- it took a while for ‘Fred the Shred’ to be called thoroughly to account-and that was only because too many others of his like began to be afraid for themselves.
How can we get, say, the National Audit office, or even Audit Scotland to look at the tax-payers’ losses occasioned seemingly by at least incompetent if not complicit bankers in the context of an overly close relationship with a big borrower?
Anyone with any special expertise?

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TSFM says:
April 5, 2014 at 11:10 pm
‘…..No, it’s a malfunctioning plugin is all. Trying to fix as I write.’
Even though I had seen this message, I still got a wee shock when I saw not one, but two ‘banning’ messages in my blog email address! Gave me quite a turn.
Anyway, I was going in to that address to change my linkedline password, because I wanted to scout around for the ‘George Angus’ . But I see others have been doing the same, because the George Angus entry I’m looking at has been looked at by somebody who also looked up Stockbridge!
The Angus I’m looking at is Ayrshire based and has to do with caravan sites and such like ‘leisure’ business.
Is this the guy who is allegedly being escorted off the premises?
( I’m interested because I may have current dealings of a sort with his company)

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Barcabhoy says:
April 5, 2014 at 9:26 pm
‘…MIH accounts now available
1 Staggering losses of £144 million..’
Little did we know or suspect that we had a Charles Green prototype being worshipped among us for years,smiling happily as he fed sacrificial succulent lamb not only to sports journos but to the business community at large? The ‘Herald’s” business page has the headline ” Murray shifts focus to private interests”
Says it all, really.

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Madbhoy24941 says:
April 5, 2014 at 7:40 pm
‘…As my mum used to say (and she was never wrong), “2 wrongs don’t make a right”.’
And your mum was, course, right.
But a necessary corollary is that the first wrong should be admitted and put right!
No legislators can expect to get away with selective application of a law to save one criminal, and then tightening up to prevent anybody else being advantaged. That is to move into a Nero-like governance mode of perversity and arbitrariness.
By accommodating a new club and its bully-boy board and manager etc, the Football Authorities have not a shred of credibility when it comes to deciding how other new clubs who wish the same treatment are to be dealt with. A ‘newco’ Hearts( if that, God forbid, is what may happen) would have every moral justification for seeking the support of Doncaster et alii for admission into the top tier after a wee secret 5-way agreement, and bugger what the rules say.

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My post at 23.54 above refers.(pressed ‘submit’ too soon!)

To continue:
the turnover of directors is not at all surprising, given the fact that TRFC is something of a pariah in both the world of football and in the world of finance.

Guys on the make find that there is no way they are going to make any kind of money.

Those of them who ( and credit to them, I suppose) thought that by lending the odd  million they might get a football club into any kind of money-making and profitable state, have been lumbered by a chairman who is most definitely a financial pariah.

Some have baled out over the few years since 2012.

Those now left are left with an almighty mess, with a Chairman in deep doo-doo with the TOP and the Court of Session: and a football team that came pretty close to a Maribor experience at home, and may find a problem away in Macedonia.

It is an appalling situation.

But, of course, if by some chance, TRFC Ltd as a newish football club astound us all by triumphing in the Europa whatever, we all know that the triumph is theirs, and not of the RFC 2012 presently languishing in Liquidation!

And I will be the first to commend a newish club on its European success.

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jimboJuly 14, 2018 at 21:29
‘…..How can there be a viable vision, a plan, a goal, without any or next to no continuity?’
It is the lack of ‘continuity as Rangers Football Club of 1872 foundation’ that is at the very heart of the matter, jimbo.

That club died. 

All the nonsense about it having been “those who owned the club  who went bust  but the club was sold to a new owner” is  in terms both of actual commercial law and  ‘football law’ is exactly that-pure nonsense.

That football club I is as dead as Gretna and Third Lanark and every other football club in Scotland that shut up shop, closed its doors and ceased to be entitled to a place in Scottish professional football.

The founder of Sevco 5088 and/or the founder of SevcoScotland ( is there a deed of novation anywhere ?08)
realised that the SFA was like saft sh.te  in their hands-their big hands, and beautifully bullied and moulded them into puppets, and then pulled all the wee strings to make them dance to their  tune. 

And dance they did!

The SFA abandoned any notion of honest governance because big hands Charlie played a brilliant game. 

They ( and in truth, they had the rightful power to do so) accepted SevcoScotland as a NEW member of the SFA, once Longmuir had persuaded the SFL to accept them into the 3rd division.

But they then went on to dream up the fiction, the pure fiction, that a brand new club, newly admitted for the first time, was an ancient club that had simply changed hands!

Why did they so abandon any sense of reality?

What was going to happen if they had just stuck to the rules? New club- welcome. Clean sheet, though, and the very good sporting record of RFC of 1872 has ended. That ‘Rangers’ is no more. Start creating your own sporting record.

The whole thing simply baffles me!

Like the wonderful Trigger and his brush!

Or like the shabby attempts by the Army to pretend that ancient and glorious regiments still have an independent existence in the Royal Regiment of Scotland!

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jimboJuly 13, 2018 at 18:49
‘..Looking forward to Kilmarnock v St. Mirren tonight. Should be interesting.’
5 missed/saved penalties?
That certainly was interesting.
I enjoyed listening to the game, and I have missed the odd penalty kick myself ( but never by  putting the ball in row F!)08

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stifflersmomJuly 14, 2018 at 00:12
‘..but he had ‘highest  level of respect’
Almost equal to the level accorded to the other David who is still looking for his £20 million!
Honest to God!
That such men as they should between them have made Scottish football into such a  dirty wee corrupt ‘business’, and should have been allowed to do so by the ‘Governance’ body-which, incidentally is receiving public monies!
There are very serious questions to be asked.
And none of our SMSM people are asking them, of course.
They would not be jailed, or murdered, for asking, as decent real journalists are in various countries are or have been.

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stifflersmomJuly 13, 2018 at 22:33
‘…What’d I miss? Did they ‘follow follow’ through with this?’
Ha-ha,  stifflersmom:good one 08
No, the good knight’s plans went somewhat agley! 
Silly little things, it is said, like
the fall in value of steel,
and, in spite of that, being allowed by certain people in a certain Bank to borrow almost without limit,
and being (quite happily!) suckered by a porn star of a tax lawyer,
and happily telling little fibs both to the tax man and to the SFA and SPL about what he was paying his football players, 
and being made to look foolish by such infinitely inferior types as CW and CG,
caused the good knight to abandon Govan and, as a good Edinburgh boy, channel his altruistic efforts into helping the citizens of the Capital.
Wonderful plans for Gogarburn! Happily agreed to by Edinburgh City Council.
Sir David is doing all right.
Except, of course, that we all know what he did to Scottish Football. 
And we know that he will go to his grave ‘honoured’ only by those of the same cast of mind as he.

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