Accountability via Transparency.

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Where transparency exists accountability inevitably follows.​


This is an extract from a post on SFM from 2015. The subject was Transparency and Slow Glass.

The message then was that football governance has to catch up in realising that football has to become more transparent in its dealing with supporters and so more accountable to them.
That transparency is already here via social media because of the ability to share, but the light of truth is constrained by Slow Glass.
Slow Glass from a short story by Bob Shaw slows down the light passing through it.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_of_Other_Days
In the story and others, you have Slow Glass of different thickness in terms of the time it takes for the light to emerge.
You have Glass a day thick/long to Glass ten years thick/long and more.

Resolution 12, if measured from the Celtic AGM in 2013 when it was tabled and adjourned, has taken 6 years for the light of truth to emerge, although it could have happened sooner had main stream media removed the dust of PR that slows the light, but light is inexorable and it is emerging at an archive of events since 2011 that can be read at

https://www.res12.uk/ 

It is in two parts.

Part One
relates to events in 2011/12 including a very interesting link between UEFA Licence 2011 and the commissioning of Lord Nimmo Smith to investigate use of EBTs with side letters by Rangers FC where non-disclosure benefited Rangers FC in 2011 AND 2012.


Part Two
concentrates SFA activity (or lack of it) from 2014 to date as result of the adjournment of Resolution 12 in November 2013 that provided shareholders with the authority to seek answers.
The archive has been constructed in chronological sequence to help readers understand better the detail and separate what took place in 2011/12 which is in the past, from the SFA handling of shareholders legitimate enquiries from 2014/15 to date, which remains current and is a mirror of SFA performance in respect of the national football team.
Many narratives will emerge as a result of the transparency, some Celtic related, but a system of governance, that is accountable in some way to supporters as stakeholders in the game, can only benefit the supporters of all clubs and they are encouraged to read through the archive.

As Phil Mac Giolla Bhain has written here in respect of Celtic and the SFA


https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/04/03/resolution-12-information-on-new-website/


accountability has to be the outcome of transparency to wipe the face and soul of Scottish football clean.

How that is achieved will be up to Scottish football supporters everywhere to take forward via their Associations and Trusts, in collaboration with the clubs they support, but it does seem to me, and I know others with more legal experience, that the SFA would find it difficult to resist a challenge to their refusal to engage with people (in this case minority shareholders of member clubs) who are affected by decisions that they make.

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  1. Rufus Otis and Hugo 16th May 2019 at 11:31

    '..Treasury Minister Mel Stride said “….we went to court to shut down the Rangers Football Club.”

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    That was not the impression that the HMRC person gave when he made this statement:

    "Liquidation will enable a sale of the football assets to be made to a new company, thereby ensuring that football will continue at Ibrox.

    "It also means that the new company will be free from claims or litigation in a way which would not be achievable with a CVA. Rangers can make a fresh start."

    To this day, I believe that whoever 'authorised' such a self-contradictory statement was either utterly incompetent as a tax official, or influenced by the same kind of partisanship that our SMSM showed (and continues to show)

    It was a disgraceful statement , in effect supporting the perpetrator rather than the victims of a tax cheating scam.

    This view , when I sat at the appeal hearing by the Upper Tier Tax Tribunal  in Edinburgh ,was not altered . 

    The HMRC case was so poorly presented that I was ready to believe that HMRC's heart wasn't in it.

    Just as I believed that Dr Heidi Poon's superb minority opinion  in the First Tier hearing showed up the other two as being, in my opinion, shallow ,superficial and far too casual in  their approach. 

    It took a real lawyer, Mr Ghosh QC, to cut through all the flim-flam, protective nonsense,  and ensure that the Court of Session delivered the truth.

    And the UK Supreme Court agreed with the Court of Session, in their decision pronounced by Lord Hodge ( who, remember to his credit, had had serious questions asked of the Administrators)

    As I remember, when I wrote to HMRC about that 'Rangers can make a fresh start' statement, I got a reply saying that they could not comment on individual cases!

     

     

     

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  2. "Investment was found and the assets of the club were bought by the Charles Green consortium," says the MLP Law blog.”

    The above is a quote from the Evening Times piece on Rizvi vs. Rangers*

    MLP were the solicitors who helped sort out a similar problem Rangers * encountered with Orlit Enterprises back in the day. Just when you thought things were going a bit quiet. MLP obviously very careful with the above quote in stating that it was the assets of Rangers (IL) that were bought.

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  3. I note that Man City has been referred to the Adjudicatory Chamber of the Club Financial Control Body, after investigation and reports by real journalists on Der Spiegel and 'The New York Times'.

    'The Scotsman' today  has John Lees writing that " these reports alleged City had deceived UEFA about its finances and had inflated the value of their commercial deals , and hid payments to players and staff from the wage bill." ( my bold)

    And 'The New York Times' of yesterday has an extended piece on this link 

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/16/sports/soccer/uefa-champions-league-manchester-city.html 

    From that piece I give you this para:

    "Failure in the Manchester City case could be met with resignations from UEFA’s investigators, who might conclude that their reputations would be damaged by the organization’s inability to enforce its own legislation and the impression that, when faced with a challenge from a powerful club, the concept of financial fair play was meaningless."

    Surely no club, however powerful, would ever, anywhere, be allowed to get away without punishment, for deceiving its Governance body and UEFA about the state of its financial affairs generally, or without sporting punishment for lying about how much it was paying its players and necessarily thereby obtaining sporting advantage 

    What's that, you say? Who? Rangers of 1872?

    I think I'll ask Der Spiegel and the New York Times where they were in 2012, and give them the link to the Res 12 information.

     

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  4. It would appear then that UEFA's investigators have actually carried out their task correctly and with integrity. An integrity that contrasts starkly with that of the SFA's investigators, whose function was to cover up the wrong-doing that took place.

    It seemed odd to me that if high profile clubs could be taken on by UEFA, the RFC situation could be ignored, but perhaps it is the obscurity and scarcely significant status of Scottish football abroad that has allowed the corruption here (both the fraud itself and the subsequent cover-up) to go past unnoticed.

     

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  5. Interesting development re: Man City and FFP.

     

    Can't see why UEFA would want to have a potential showdown with Europe's top clubs, if they did in fact take meaningful action against City.

     

    Ironically, FFP could be exploited by the top clubs as the big stick which will 'force them' to create their own 'Champions League' franchise.

     

    Being consistent, I'd guess UEFA will roll over…and impose a financial penalty!

     

    UEFA – or FIFA – and Fair Play in the same sentence is a bit of a joke anyway.

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  6. I try not to make comment in matters directly involving Celtic however the announcement that Jon Flanagan’s appeal against his retrospective red card has been upheld is surely beyond the pale for any fair minded person. To make matters worse the assistant manager at Mr Flanagan’s club was quoted as saying that the incident was nothing more than a “coming together “. It is impossible to judge which body is running Scottish football now. On paper it is the SFA but in reality it looks increasingly like it is the 7 year old member club based in Govan. Over to you Mr Lawwell. 

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  7. I think Tom English has called it correctly.

    Tom English‏ @TEnglishSport

    No such thing as a red card offence in Scottish football anymore. Every club should appeal everything next season. Decent chance of winning. Chaos guaranteed

    That said, I do think there is an increasing tendency to re-referee games after the event.

    The three man referees panel is just another sounding board for opinions.  If Kevin Clancy reviewed the footage and thought he got it wrong, then it is his (revised) decision that should matter. I assume that he did think he got is wrong and that is why the referees panel got involved in the process.

    If the referees' assessors consider that the referee got it wrong during the match, then the implications of that should only affect the referee.

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  8. Well, since the tea & biscuits "Referees Summit" at Perth in February…

     

    does anyone think that the refereeing standards has improved?

     

    I think since February the standards have noticeably declined further.

     

    So, is any improvement to refereeing standards simply 'on hold' until / unless VAR is implemented?

     

    And yet again: why would any decent manager want to associate with the incompetents at Hampden?

    If – somehow – Steve Clarke becomes Scotland manager I'll buy a ticket for the Cyprus game!

    [Won't attend but I'll buy a ticket.  ]

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  9. The SFA's (Ian Maxwell) response to Bonnyrigg's latest appeal.

    Reply to direct appeal
    “Having checked internally, I can confirm that there is no appeal route available for clubs going through the application process.

    The Board rejected all applicant club derogations as a matter of policy. All applications must be treated equally with the minimum criteria being met in full rather than the Board subjectively deciding which clubs have met ‘enough’ of the criteria enough to allow approval.

    Additionally, in the build up to a new season, leagues and clubs require certainty around their membership to allow proper planning on and off the pitch. Situations where league membership requires to be changed last minute are impractical and must be avoided.

    I appreciate that the floodlighting criteria was added during your application process. We found ourselves in the unusual position of having 12 clubs apply for membership at roughly the same time and had to consider the impact this influx would have.

    One major consideration is the Scottish Cup and we receive consistent feedback from members that postponed/replay fixture dates which, due to a lack of floodlighting, are required to be Saturday afternoons as opposed to midweek evenings are hugely problematic. Clubs are required to cancel league fixtures, with associated hospitality and match income being severely impacted. We have also had issues – one such this season – which meant that a 5th round tie would have to have been played on a midweek afternoon had it gone to a replay, which would have had a serious impact across a number of areas.

    As you are aware the new Scottish Cup broadcasting contract includes televised fixtures in rounds 1, 2 and 3 which will provide an excellent platform for the lower levels of the game in this country. The BBC have the right to choose matches at variable kick off times, which may well require floodlighting at venues given the time of year, meaning that the number of games available for selection could be severely limited.

    Please be assured the decision wasn’t taken lightly. We were aware of the implications for your club in particular and I understand the frustration and disappointment you must feel, however the Board must take decisions considering the impact on the Scottish game as a whole, rather than considering individual circumstances.

    I appreciate this is not the reply you were hoping for however trust you can appreciate the Boards position.”

    The bit I've highlighted is a shocking admission by the SFA that they don't want significant numbers of new members despite their supposed support of the "pyramid". In simple terms, Rod Petrie lied to them at the meeting in April.

    Needless to say, Bonnyrigg has responded with the following statement.

    Direct appeal to SFA rejected.

    As an update to our statement released last week we received a reply from SFA CEO Ian Maxwell yesterday to our direct appeal and are disappointed but not altogether surprised to reveal that it has also been rejected. (Full reply to direct appeal at the foot of the page). This is despite testimonials sent on our behalf by MSPs, our council and not least the platinum Quality Mark Community Club of which we are an associate who have previously represented the SFA at the Scottish Parliament.
    We have invested upwards of six figures in ground and facility improvements at New Dundas Park over the past four seasons, not counting the work completed and substantial capital purchases made by our two main sponsors (The McDermott Group & Grant Fitzsimmons & Son) as part of their sponsorship. It also doesn't count the labour costs which a lot of the friends of the club have given free gratis. A significant element of that investment was with licensing criteria in mind, for example when we had to make several costly adjustments to our changing rooms in order to meet the criteria.
    This is however not the end of the road for us, as despite the labyrinthine nature of the different articles and licensing documents, there is still one option open to us which we are seeking guidance on from parties outside of the club whether to pursue. We owe it to our players and supporters to explore every available option open to us until each of those options have been exhausted. We sold a vision to our supporters at our EGM last March of what the future would look like if we joined the East of Scotland league after 120 years of Scottish Junior Football membership, but the stark reality at present is that we have swapped one glass ceiling for another.
    In parallel we are pleased to announce that we have received planning consent from Midlothian Council today for our floodlights installation. We agreed several months ago to acquire floodlights from Midlothian Council which were previously used at the old Newbattle High School campus and have concluded that purchase as a result of receiving planning consent today. Work will commence early next week on the installation of these floodlights, which means that we will have to forego some grant funding which we could have availed of had we stuck to our original plans. We feel however that it is imperative we have these in place as soon as is possible. G Fitzsimmons and Son are covering a significant portion of the costs as part of their sponsorship for next season and we are extremely grateful for their continued support of the club. There is still a substantial figure to cover so we are asking our supporters and local businesses, indeed any supporters for their help with this by donating to our funding page that we have set up this evening on this link. We are indebted to our supporters for the response received in our fundraising efforts so far.
    People can draw their own conclusions on the reasons given for our direct appeal rejection but at a very high level:
    – On the subject of the Scottish Cup there are seven clubs with National Club License awards that currently don’t have floodlights. In addition there are several other clubs who will enter the preliminary rounds as winners of other leagues/cups who also don’t have floodlights, based on the current Scottish Cup format. We are one of those having won the East of Scotland League (but we will have lights by then)
    – Still on the Scottish Cup the last time an actual game was held on a midweek afternoon was eight years ago. Also under the current format Scottish Cup replays up to and including round 3 are played the following Saturday.
    – Changes made at short notice to the Licensing system is one of the reasons the derogation procedure exists. We were given an undertaking as recently as April at a meeting of Lowland League & East of Scotland League delegates at Easter Road by the SFA VP that derogation requests would be reviewed and assessed based on the requests submitted; i.e. if there were plans in place to meet the criteria. This is completely contrary to what has actually taken place.
    – The biggest concern for all clubs at our level should be paragraph four, where it appears that the board of our national association have taken proactive steps in order to curtail a membership ‘influx’. This has meant that five clubs along with ourselves were denied membership by the actions of the SFA board. This is despite scope to allow up to 200 members, with only 90 member clubs at present. This is completely at odds with the SFA values and their overarching principle to help develop clubs at all levels.
    We should be celebrating our league title, looking forward to a cup final next Sunday against the Lowland League champions and promotion to that league, wondering along with the rest of the country who the next manager of the men’s national team will be and getting ready to cheer on Shelley Kerr’s side at their first World Cup.
    What we shouldn’t be doing is this – it isn’t right, fair or proper.

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  10. easyJambo 17th May 2019 at 18:47

    '…The SFA's (Ian Maxwell) response to Bonnyrigg's latest appeal.'

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     "The BBC have the right to choose matches at variable kick off times, which may well require floodlighting at venues given the time of year, meaning that the number of games available for selection could be severely limited.

    Am I alone in thinking that that is a very weak argument?

    Surely the agreement with the BBC could be easily re-visited?

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  11. theredpill 17th May 2019 at 18:49

    '..Full Judgment in the case of Sports Direct Ltd '

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    No, I think James D is a bit behind! He has cited an 'old' judgment.

    There has been action since, the result of which we still await.

     

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  12. There are a raft of shameful statements in Maxwell's response to Bonnyrigg

    “Having checked internally, I can confirm that there is no appeal route available for clubs going through the application process.

    So he didn't know the SFA's own rules on the matter and the absence of an appeal process is a disgrace.

    The Board rejected all applicant club derogations as a matter of policy.

    So why is there an option in the SFA's licensing rules that allows derogation.  Maxwell was present at the same meeting in April at which Petrie said that derogations would be considered. 

    Additionally, in the build up to a new season, leagues and clubs require certainty around their membership to allow proper planning on and off the pitch. Situations where league membership requires to be changed last minute are impractical and must be avoided.

    The SFA have a cheek saying that it is too close to the new season as they were meant to have announced the licensing decisions at their February board meeting, but cancelled that meeting, then delayed the announcement by three months.  Perhaps the SPFL playoffs including the Cove/Berwick play-off tomorrow should be called off as some clubs don't know what league they will be playing in next season.

    I appreciate that the floodlighting criteria was added during your application process. We found ourselves in the unusual position of having 12 clubs apply for membership at roughly the same time and had to consider the impact this influx would have.

    That was nice of Maxwell to acknowledge that the SFA changed the licensing criteria two months after Bonnyrigg and others made their applications.  Unusual that 12 clubs would seek membership?  I thought the SFA's stated aim was to promote community clubs in obtaining licences which demonstrate that they have facilities, infrastructure, coaching and youth set ups aimed at developing the game both at senior and grass-roots levels. Consider the impact of admitting 12 clubs instead of 6? WTF is he on, unless the existing member clubs don't want new clubs admitted as full members.

    One major consideration is the Scottish Cup and we receive consistent feedback from members that postponed/replay fixture dates which, due to a lack of floodlighting, are required to be Saturday afternoons as opposed to midweek evenings are hugely problematic.

    So why allow clubs without floodlights to enter the Scottish Cup in the first place.  Bonnyrigg has already qualified to take part in next season’s competition as EOS champions.  Camelon (another rejected club) has also qualified.  Auchinleck reached the 5th round last reason, beating Ayr in the process. They don't have lights ……. and that was a major problem had Hearts drawn with them at Tynecastle. Is it not beyond the thought processes at Hampden that Auchinleck could have played any midweek games at Rugby Park or Somerset Park, or any other ground with lights?  Just watch for Whitehill being drawn to play Bonnyrigg in next season's competition.

    Please be assured the decision wasn’t taken lightly. We were aware of the implications for your club in particular and I understand the frustration and disappointment you must feel, however the Board must take decisions considering the impact on the Scottish game as a whole, rather than considering individual circumstances. 

    Considering the game as a whole, rather than individual club circumstances? So the SFA finds it easier to express a "can't do" approach rather than a "can do" approach. Typical of blazer and committee led organisations.

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  13. " He's a liar" says Robbo of the 4th official. "I'm going to start speaking out now" (Sportsound , this evening)

    And I understand  his anger and frustration.

    Alan Preston , earlier, was bemoaning the fact that after a lifetime in football, he now did not know what was or wasn't a yellow or red card offence, and his conclusion was to tell every club to appeal against disciplinary action as a matter of course. 

    Both guys , consciously or unconsciously, are reflecting the fact that Scottish Football Governance , having cobbled up the nonsense of 'conditional' membership, having allowed 'Brysonism', having created the 5-Way Agreement, and having(possibly) been complicit in hoodwinking UEFA into granting a UEFA competitions licence to an unentitled club, etc,etc, etc. is an absolutely busted flush.

    Scottish Football will not be right until the Truth is acknowledged.

    The SFA may huff and puff with might and main, but it has lost all moral authority, and two fingers may justly be given to it when it seeks to impose 'discipline'

     

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  14. StevieBC 17th May 2019 at 17:46

    There’s a lesson in hindsight to consider. Never has so much refereeing tumult enrapt the Scottish game so much since MMXII A.D. That said, I’m mindful of the stramash which ‘followed’ the 2015 6 – 1 double header aggregate drubbing on 31 May 2015.

    There’s a clear and present solution. Promote all of those officials that ‘regularly’ oversee the competitions in the Premiership and lower leagues to our Premier League. ‘Nothing to see’ down there. Apparently.

    Hope all are well. I’ve been tuning in. Honest. 

     

     

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  15. I turn to BBC Scotland news website and find this

    "Celtic cite 'huge embarrassment' after Rangers' Jon Flanagan escapes ban"

    2 hours ago

    • Celtic have described the decision not to further punish Rangers' Jon Flanagan for elbowing captain Scott Brown in Sunday's Old Firm derby as a "huge embarrassment for Scottish football".

    Aye, very good, Celtic!

    What about the huge embarrassment of  happily accepting that your shareholders may have been (allegedly) ripped off a few million quid?? Not a cheap about that, is there?

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  16. easyJambo 17th May 2019 at 22:17

    '..and the absence of an appeal process is a disgrace.'

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    I agree, and I am truly amazed that there isn't one!

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  17. easyJambo 17th May 2019 at 22:17

     

    There are a raft of shameful statements in Maxwell's response to Bonnyrigg

    “having checked internally, i can confirm that there is no appeal route available for clubs going through the application process. etc etc 

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    Thanks for all this stuff EJ.

     

    The current SFA conclusions and attempts to "manage" the licensing process between the ex juniors coming into the pyramid has been badly handled from the start and is now quite embarrassing as well as being disgraceful.

    It is an insight into an organisation that is truly not fit for purpose.

     

    Mr Maxwell admitting that his organisations membership criteria actually changed along the way and in particular after the submissions were made (at great costs to the clubs) is quite bizarre and just plain wrong.

    At the last meeting we have been told Mr Petrie allegedly got upset when called out as a proprietor of mis truths.

    I'd say the floor of that particular meeting called it right.

     

    I note one particular para in the Bonnyrigg reply and wish them all the luck in the world should they choose to follow it because this all deserves more publicity and outfits like the SFA who benefit from public funding should be held to proper account.

    this is however not the end of the road for us, as despite the labyrinthine nature of the different articles and licensing documents, there is still one option open to us which we are seeking guidance on from parties outside of the club whether to pursue.  

    Go for it guys.

    Go for it for all the wee clubs and fans who get treated like second class citizens.

    Go for it knowing that Ian Maxwell would not have wanted Partick Thistle to be treated the way he is now treating these member clubs.

    Go for it knowing that Rod Petrie would not have wanted his childhood club Aberdeen, or his current club Hibs to be treated like this either.

     

    Ask why are they happy to do to others what they would not have accepted being done to their own clubs.

     

     

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  18. A wee reminder to give us a laugh – instead of greetin’ – at the state of Scottish football governance.

    One of the 4 'strategic pillars' of the SFA's 2020 Vision statement;

     

    • Respected and Trusted to Lead.

     

    I haven't had any respect for the SFA for at least 20+ years…and counting.

    I wouldn't trust any of the blazers to make a cup of tea.

    The only 'lead' at Hampden is of the metal variety: the SFA is like a lead weight, forever dragging Scottish football downwards…

    wink

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  19.  

     

    In the past few weeks we've seen… 

     

    1. A referee who makes an error in the application of the Laws, thus denying a team a chance to press for an equaliser, much discussed in the MSM & on social media. His next appointment?  A high-profile, televised fixture.

    2. A referee who fails to send off a player for violent conduct. Again much-discussed in various media & at the SFA. The referee's next appointment? A high-profile, televised fixture where he makes a contentious (actually a wrong) decision that changes the course of the game.

     

    When Mr. Fleming appoints (or rubber-stamps the appointments of) referees, is he, in any way, aware of referees' last performances? Does he actually care anymore?

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect that Mr. Collum will have his hands full at Rugby Park tomorrow, as will Mr. Thomson at Celtic Park. 

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  20. StevieBC 18th May 2019 at 08:21

    '..Respected and Trusted to Lead..'

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    A letter-writer [one Robert M Dunn]in todays' "The Scotsman", writing about the 'post-truth utterances' of politicians is reminded of Jonathan Swift's  essay in 1729 " The Art of political Lying" in which Swift uses the word 'phantatuestics', meaning 'a system of lying, deceiving, or fantasising'

    It seems to me that since at least 2012 there has been no basis on which the SFA can be described as a body worthy of respect or trustworthy in the their leadership.

    On the contrary it is  plain to me that it is a body whose utterances are best treated as 'phantatuestic'.

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  21. Ex Ludo 18th May 2019 at 13:54

    '..A new word enters the SFM lexicon. Hat suitably doffed.'

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    It was a new word to me, and I'm glad I read Mr Munn's letter and learned it!
    But there should be an ‘s’in it, as people probably guessed:phantastuestic.
    Clumsy fingers on my part.

     

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  22. The blog having gone all quiet( unless my refresh button is kaput! as characters in the war-comics of my primary school days used to say), I toyed with the idea of sending an email to Tariq Panja, whose report about Man City's troubles was in the New York Times on 13th May.

    I was thinking of making the observation that while it is important that the alleged wrongdoings of an individual football club be investigated and reported on ( as Der Spiegel and the NYT have done in relation to Man City), it might be more important to turn an investigative eye on any sports Governance body that might, on the face of things, be something less than the clean potato.

    Panja's article has a 'contact Tariq Panja' email thingy which doesn't give an email address but gives boxes in which you put your own email address  and then write your  message , tick the 'I am not a robot' box, and send.

    Tried it. Feckin thing showed no sign of anything happening!heart

    So I looked up Tariq, only to find that he's  an English journalist ( used to work for the Guardian).

    And probably takes the SMSM line of acceptance of the Big Lie orchestrated and choreographed by the Governance body of Scottish Football – the SFA. Nothing to see here, let's move on.

    So why bother writing to him? It would be like writing to the DR or Pacific Quay!

    Where are our Bernsteins and Woodwards when we need them?

    [The New York Times website tells me that over a thousand email 'letters to the editor' are received each day. In that context, I don't suppose the doings of an impoverished tuppence h'penny SFA take any precedence.]

     

     

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  23. Ex Ludo 18th May 2019 at 23:27

    '..Journalist asking pertinent question of a football club manager. It’ll never catch on.'

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    I don't really know my way around Twitter and tweets and refeckintweets , but my eye was caught by this when I opened ( a few minutes ago) the link you gave, Ex Ludo.

    "Matthew Leslie‏ @mattleslie74 26m26 minutes ago

    So corruption should be ignored? Look what happened when some media folk turned a blind eye to the dodgy EBT abuse at Rangers. That club died and those same reporters who should have highlighted it years earlier now have their reputations stained indelibly."

    'reputations stained indelibly' is true. 

    If any of our SMSM had been vegetarians instead of being hooked on succulent lamb the whole ridiculous nonsense of  SDM's personal wealth funding RFC of 1872  would have been questioned.

    But I suppose that if even the directors were dumb enough to bow and scrape to Murray -as they did- it is not to be wondered at that the hacks swallied their lamb like Odysseus' men swallied the grub that Circe gave them, and turned into swine ! 

    They were restored to normality after Ulysses got his leg over the said Circe.

    No way can any of the guilty SMSM  'Big Lie' propagandists ever get back their reputations! 

    No matter who gets his leg over whom!

     

     

     

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  24. Well, since it's the last league game for top 6 SPL teams…

     

    After a week of ridiculous, over the top 'celebrations' by assorted TRFC players / pundits – and with complementary, fawning support from a compliant SMSM – for merely 'winning 3 points’…

     

    How will they all react IF Killie gives Steve Clarke a tremendous send off with a home win today – and secure their highest league position for several decades?

    crying

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  25. StevieBC 19th May 2019 at 14:45
    ……………
    Do you have this weeks winning lottery numbers?
    How will they all react IF Killie gives Steve Clarke a tremendous send off with a home win today – and secure their highest league position for several decades?

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  26. Up betimes this morning, Radio Scotland on, and what do I hear?

    At 6.50,  someone called  Craig Jones of  the Advertising Standards Agency blowing that organisation's  own trumpet about their new apps that help them to keep an eye on adverts on the internet blah blah blah.

    As far as I'm concerned , the Advertising Standards Agency's readiness to accept that TRFC Ltd's claim to be RFC of 1872 is valid  makes that organisation as much of a joke as the SFA, when it comes to being any kind of 'regulatory ' Authority!

     

     

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  27. According to the SMSM the SFA has put all its eggs in the one basket, I.e. Steve Clarke.

    It has been curious the last week or so that players, pundits have been quoted as saying how good he would be for Scotland.

    But, of course, nothing from Clarke himself.

     

    Clarke might have very good personal / family reasons for taking the Scotland job now – and the SFA would be extremely lucky.

     

    But, on purely managerial abilities, he's got far too much potential at club level.  If he's 'ruthlessly ambitious' like another SPL manager who left Scotland recently, Clarke would only be using the SFA as leverage for a better deal elsewhere.

    …or am I being too cynical…?

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  28. StevieBC @11.21

    Stevie Clarke is certainly the housewife’s choice so to speak but his speech to the crowd at the end of the game yesterday did not sound remotely like a farewell. In addition he has European football with Kilmarnock to look forward to now. Of course, he has been outspoken in much the same way Craig Levein was before he got the Scotland job so history could be about to be repeated.

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  29. Don’t see how Clarke, who has been lauded for speaking truth to SFA power, can avoid a hypocrisy charge if he takes the job. For that reason, I hope he doesn’t.

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  30. Soooo , €3 million was the only bid for Morelos , according to Stevie G . He obviously hasn't been shown the bid for €9million that silenced the BBC reporter .(was that before his time ? Even so , you would have thought they would have had it framed and on display – bugger all else to show ).

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  31. Big Pink 20th May 2019 at 12:23

    Ex Ludo 20th May 2019 at 15:15

    As discussed the other day Clarke is the best of a very short list.

    However the one thing I believe he has in is favour is that it he comes over as a practical realist and someone who cares about the game, his players and results more than himself. He clearly has no fear in facing down (or bowing down) to the likes of Celtic or T'Rangers as yesterdays wee leaving speech showed.

    If he gets any crap from the SFA or any of the clubs I hope he won't be slow in coming forward and telling them how it is.

     

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  32. A wee PS

    The reports I see indicate that Gerrard says 'Rangers have only received ONE offer for Alfredo Morelos during his time at the club'.

    Therefore Slippy G arrived in May 2018 so, to be fair, all the China talk was from January / February 2018.

     

    However there were MSM reports after Gerrard was appointed about bids from many including:-

    Bordeaux

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45203177

    Nice

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/17376709.steven-gerrard-a-bid-of-8m-disrespects-alfredo-morelos-rangers-and-me-hes-going-nowhere/

    Marseille 

    https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/alfredo-morelos-to-marseille-french-side-want-rangers-ace-to-replace-mario-balotelli-1-4914152

    Fenerbache

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/alfredo-morelos-targeted-fenerbahce-turkish-12695946

     

    Usual pish from both the club from Ibrox and the arse licking SMSM

     

     

     

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  33. I can never work out wether the JPJenkins site has an echo because sometimes it shows 2 identical transactions and sometimes only 1.  Anyway since I last looked two lines of 300,000 shares at 18p have been added.  If the seller voted to sell on the court ordered offer, he/she/they have taken a £6000+ hit because honest Dave bought enough time to gerrymander the vote

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  34. I can't believe Clark has taken the Scotland job. He could have used his success at Kilmarnock as a stepping stone to a bigger club here or back in the EPL.

    I wonder what he will do when he is eventually sacked for not winning the World Cup?

    The Servco supporters and their friends in the media will be against him from the off. The poor chap has no chance unless he can at least qualify for something and then virtually win the trophy.
    Is it Clark or Clarke, over to you JC.

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  35. A wee PS

    The reports I see indicate that Gerrard says 'Rangers have only received ONE offer for Alfredo Morelos during his time at the club'.

    Therefore Slippy G arrived in May 2018 so, to be fair, all the China talk was from January / February 2018.

     

    However there were MSM reports after Gerrard was appointed about bids from many including:-

    Bordeaux

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45203177

    Nice

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/17376709.steven-gerrard-a-bid-of-8m-disrespects-alfredo-morelos-rangers-and-me-hes-going-nowhere/

    Marseille 

    https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/alfredo-morelos-to-marseille-french-side-want-rangers-ace-to-replace-mario-balotelli-1-4914152

    Fenerbache

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/alfredo-morelos-targeted-fenerbahce-turkish-12695946

     

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  36. Ballyargus 20th May 2019 at 17:30

    When your country calls most people take up the opportunity.

    We have a decent squad of players, a few stand-outs and some decent upcoming prospects.

    Clarke may well be the one to draw them all together and get the working as an efficient team.

    Not sure what T'Rangers have to do with Scotland these days, they are full of foreign ( and some on loan) starters and other than McGregor haven't provided any homegrown talent in the last few squads.

    Can't see the likes of Jack or McCrorie getting a run of 1st team football that would warrant an international call up. Similar story for the new signing of Hastie and Greig Stewart if he goes to Ibrox.

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  37. Ballyargus 20th May 2019 at 17:30

    '.Is it Clark or Clarke, over to you JC.'

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    AW, c'mon! I make a spelling mistake years ago [ and where has EssexBeancounter gone? ] in RTC days and folk still remember it!broken heart

     

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  38. Ex Ludo 20th May 2019 at 19:34

    '….https://twitter.com/aitkensdrum/status/1130527442337189893?s=21&#039;

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    I am curious about the practicalities of 'bona vacantia':

    "Upon dissolution all property and rights vested in, or held in trust for, the Company are deemed to be bona vacantia [ownerless goods] and accordingly will belong to the Crown"

    Are there a few TRFC Ltd  'taps' lying about , unsold, that in two months time will belong to Her Majesty?

    She will be pleased! broken heart

     

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  39. Ballyargus 20th May 2019 at 17:30

    '..The Servco supporters and their friends in the media will be against him from the off. '

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    It would be useful if we had on record , and ready to hand,what each and every SMSM football 'reporter' or writer has to say today/tomorrow about Clarke's appointment. 

    I am limited to listening to BBC 'Sportsound' and viewing 'Sportscene,' and reading the writers in 'The Scotsman'

    From what I have so far today heard from those sources, the preponderance of opinion [once McInnes was acknowledged as having opted not to be considered] was that Clarke was the man. 

    I have no idea whether the likes of him who told us all about the MBMB, or those other succulent lamb eaters of the SMSM , have expressed a different view today. 

    Whatever their view, let it be recorded. For future reference. 

    The SFA certainly tried to make sure that they covered their back, by waiting to hear what the general run of press, public, and pundits seemed to be  asking for.

    And, in fairness, if it all goes pear shaped, they can rightly say they gave us what we seemed to want.

    But that, of course, is not what they are meant to do!

    They are meant to exercise their judgment as leaders, not to worry about covering their backs!

    My own view is that they might just have chosen well. 

    Clarke is not a 'yes' man. He is a man of few words, but those words are telling. What he has said in public he no doubt says/said in private to the SFA Board. 

    There is steel in the man, and elements of Strachan and Stein. And, I hope, the professionalism in sport that judges everything in sport by the rules of sport and nothing else.

    I wish him well.

    I feel sure he will quickly have players absolutely dying to be chosen to be, or to be kept,in the squad, with none of a 'two  fingers up ye' attitude. 

    And will have clubs ready and willing to provide the players he calls upon, without feigning injuries or any of that nonsense.

    I think it's looking quite good for the national team.

     

     

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  40. John Clark 20th May 2019 at 22:58

    I am curious about the practicalities of 'bona vacantia'

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    I have come across it before and it makes for an interesting personal story.

    I had occasion to look into the term a couple of years ago.  It involved a company called "Heart of Midlothian 2005"  It held 6.5m shares (just over 4%) in Hearts (Heart of Midlothian plc), but had just been dissolved.

    I already knew that HoM 2005 was the company that Romanov had used to acquire control of the club in 2005, although its holding had been diluted in the intervening years by a couple of debt for equity swaps involving Romanov's bank, Ukio Bankas and his holding company UBIG. HoM 2005 also ended up as a subsidiary of UBIG.

    I was curious about what happened to the shares HoM 2005 held in the club, as they hadn’t been accounted for in the documented share transfers at the time of the takeover. I found out that they would now be classed as "Bona Vacantia" and under the control of the "Queen's and Lord Treasurer's Remembrancer" (QLTR). I actually considered making an offer to the QLTR for the shares, if I could get them at the same price as Ann Budge had paid for the Ukio Bankas and UBIG shares.  It would only have cost around £4,500, which I thought was a good deal to own over 4% of the club.

    With hindsight, I made a mistake shortly afterwards by submitting a question about the status of the shares to the Hearts AGM. A couple of days after the AGM I received confirmation from the club's financial director that the shares were held "bona vacantia" (which I already knew).

    My thoughts of owning a small but not insignificant part of the club were dashed a few weeks later when an unopposed petition was submitted to the Court of Session, on behalf of Ann Budge, seeking ownership of the HoM 2005 shares under the control of the QLTR.  

    I guess that she did have every right to take ownership of them as she had acquired the rest of the UBIG shares as part of the CVA that took the club out of administration. HoM 2005 being a subsidiary of UBIG may well have meant that she should have acquired their shares at the time of the CVA, depending on the terms of the offer made to UBIG. 

    However, when I look back, I wonder if it was me contacting the club that prompted Ann Budge to contact the QLTR in the first place.

     

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  41. easyJambo 21st May 2019 at 00:09

    '..However, when I look back, I wonder if it was me contacting the club that prompted Ann Budge to contact the QLTR in the first place.'

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    That's a great story, eJ,.

    Apart from anything else, my son had a pal who took a job with UkIO Bankas  for a while.

    But I suspect that Mrs Budge was ahead of the curve with info that you didn't have until after she had it.

    It would have been good for the blog to have a contributor who was a 4% shareholder of Hearts!

    But not as good as having eJ pure and simple as a Hearts supporter contributing to the blog.

     

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  42. John Clark 20th May 2019 at 21:33

     

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    Ballyargus 20th May 2019 at 17:30

    '.Is it Clark or Clarke, over to you JC.'

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    AW, c'mon! I make a spelling mistake years ago [ and where has EssexBeancounter gone? ] in RTC days and folk still remember it!broken heart

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    JC, I don't know the story of your spelling mistake. When writing my wee piece re SC I realised that I wasn't sure if his name had an "e" at the end and added the last bit as you use a similar name as a non de plume. It was a bit tongue in cheek, I hope you were not offended. no

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  43. Feel a bit flat at Clarke's decision to join the SFA.

     

    However, fingers crossed he's also a Trojan Horse, and will become the 'SFA CEO & President' in due course – to shake the blazers out of their permanent slumber… indecision

     

    Good luck Steve Clarke.

     

     

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  44. Ballyargus 21st May 2019 at 06:00

    '..I hope you were not offended. no'

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    Absolutely not offended, Ballyargus: taken happily back in time to some entertaining and exciting times in the early days of the saga.broken heart

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  45. Re Steve Clarke:

     

    He's got his 'enemy' to give him a part-time (by football management standards) job on full-time money & they've agreed to let him work from home. 

     

    Genius or desperation from Maxwell? I'll wait & see…

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  46. No brainer for Clarke despite his feelings on the SFA

    He gets to move back home with his family away from the West of Scotland goldfish bowl.

    I think hes a very good manager and wish him well

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  47. Like Bill 1903, I wish Steve Clarke well in his new post. I do think he has more of the required skill-set than any other declared candidate, but I am a bit disappointed that his words about the SFA appear to be rather empty.

    Like most involved in the football industry and it's dependent satellites, the bottom line has seen him siding with (his words) the 'amateurs' at the SFA.

    I doubt there will be any more political utterances from him from now on. Not the first false prophet in the Scottish Football Testament – and likely not the last.

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  48. Was Neil Doncaster trying to keep a low profile at Celtic Park on Sunday? Despite being centre stage while handing out the medals I don't think his name was announced over the PA system . As the presentation party entered the pitch their names were called out but I am pretty certain there was no mention of the bold Neil.

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