A Lie for a Lie

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The “Lawwell Letter” is trending everywhere this week. To elucidate, it is email sent to (among others) Peter Lawwell and Eric Riley of Celtic on 26 July 2012 by SPL CEO Neil Doncaster.

The email came with an attached copy of the Five Way Agreement (hereafter “5WA”, the deal between Sevco, Rangers, the SFA, the SPL and the SFL). Now that it has been made public, it seems safe to speak openly about what it all means for us as folk who believe in sporting integrity.

I would preface my comments with a caveat though. On the face of it, the Celtic Chief Executive appears to have misled the gathering at the recent Celtic AGM. He was asked by a shareholder if Celtic were involved in the Five Way Agreement. Lawwell replied, “No”, and gave same “No” response to the follow up question, “have you seen it?”

Given that a copy of that email was in the possession of a few folk before that AGM, I have to admit to being surprised by that answer – although even more surprised at the apparent lack of due diligence implied by the lack of knowledge of its content.

We have attempted to contact Mr Lawwell to ask him if he would like to comment on the apparent discrepancy between the evidence and his answer (and I am sure we are not the only ones to have done so). To date, we have received no response. Given the complete lack of acknowledgement of the existence of this anomaly in the MSM, we should perhaps assume that none will be forthcoming.

Perhaps there is an explanation (yes I know), but Celtic should know, like Rangers old and new have come to realise, that silence on these matters breeds deep suspicion and distrust.

Assuming for the minute that Occam’s Razor applies here, there may be an uncomfortable truth emerging for Celtic fans – that Rangers (old and new) do not have a monopoly on dishonesty. There is also an uncomfortable truth that should emerge for Rangers fans too – that as we have said all along, this has never been about just Rangers, but about the governance of the game.

If the Celtic CEO did lie to the AGM a few weeks ago what are the consequences? He broke no laws as far as I can see. One insider I spoke to said simply this,

“So he lied. So what? What happens now? It’s irrelevant”

That is of course absolutely true. As long as controlling shareholders are happy that Resolution 12 is buried, and that no deep inquiry into governance is held into the workings of the game in Scotland, the lie is nonpunishable, though it would be a mistake to believe that accountability is confined only to the corporate rules governing Boards and shareholders; the corporate veil of “I was only following company policy” can be readily challenged in the court of public opinion, which has no statute of limitations.

What all this demonstrates of course is that Celtic have been saying one thing to their fans and shareholders, nodding agreement in private meetings about how appalling Rangers behaviour was, tut-tutting over how amateurish the authorities were, and wringing their hands in frustration at what a sham the LNS inquiry turned out to be.

At the same time, they have done nothing, allowed small shareholders to spend not inconsiderable suns progressing the matter, and quietly hoped that the “appetite” for justice would diminish so they could get back to whatever it is they and the rest do when subject to little or no scrutiny.

Whilst ten in a row is on the table of course, they can get away with it. To Celtic fans right now, understandably, nothing else matters. But what if TIAR is derailed? Not a stretch to imagine that the Parkhead kitchen could get uncontrollably hot in that circumstance. And when the TIAR squirrel finally ends its scurry, in either success or failure, where will the fans attention be diverted?

Perhaps the arrogance that permits making (allegedly) false statements to a general meeting, and (allegedly) misleading shareholders over Res 12 is borne of the knowledge that the parachutes are ready to be deployed when either of the above scenarios come to pass? If TIAR is achieved or goes south, are they already prepared for an emergency exit?

Celtic have two major shareholders whose combined holding is over 50% of the club’s shares. Dermot Desmond and Nick Train. Desmond is now in his eighth decade and Train is reportedly having some business difficulties. Both may well be moved to get out anyway, but fan unrest would make their decision a whole lot easier.

And Lawwell himself is – if you believe the MSM – on the wanted list of nearly as many top clubs as Alfredo Morelos.

The foregoing of course is extremely “Old Firm” centric, and as the two biggest clubs in the country they certainly have the biggest impact on the game, culturally, socially and financially. However there is no get-out clause here for others.

We KNOW there is evidence of fraud surrounding the licencing issue in 2012. We KNOW there is evidence of a cover up over that, and the EBT-related registration issues for Old Rangers. We KNOW that the Five Way Agreement was signed by football authorities in the knowledge that it would rob their own rules of judicial authority with regard to compliance by RFC prior to 2012.

We also know that NOT ONE club has taken a meaningful stand against any of it.

Clubs are saying one thing to supporters and doing their best to derail those supporters’ efforts on the other. We can also infer (not unreasonably) that the folk who run the clubs think that we as fans have no right to interfere in how they run their operations.

As I said earlier, Celtic can do what they like whilst TIAR is live, but afterwards, however it ends, the fans and shareholders involved in Res 12 will still be asking questions. Celtic in particular know how fatal it can be to alienate their own fan base – a fan base that has flexed its muscles with devastating effect for the boardroom in the past. And it is the wrath of the fans of all clubs that will eventually see the charlatans get their just desserts.

Our job as fans is to continue to hold those who care little for the honour and beauty of football to account, to continue to press them on their refusal to deal with arguably the biggest sporting scandal in Scottish history.

The bottom line (which is of course what the folk in boardrooms care about) is this. They need us far more than we need them. As fans of different clubs, the sensibility of those of us at SFM recognises that the real battle, the real war, is not between rival fans or rival clubs, but between the arrogant, self-entitled clique who run our game; who lie for fun, who cheat and belittle the sport; and the good folk who make it possible for the game to prosper.

Resolution 12 is not just about Rangers – nor is it just about Celtic. It deserves to be embraced by every true football fan in the country. The Res 12 franchise needs to widened

Sooner or later the fans will demonstrate their unhappiness with the money men. They did it in 2012, and they will inevitably do so again.

2230 COMMENTS


  1. Dunderheid 17th February 2020 at 10:55

    I know it can sometimes be slightly difficult to find Celtic highlights on the BBC Shortbread website (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish)…

    ===

    I clicked on that BBC link, and the following headlines were displayed side by side;

    "Late Ajer goal clinches scrappy Celtic victory over Aberdeen"

    "Rangers maintain 10-point gap behind Celtic with Livingstone win"

     

    Having watched both games live yesterday, the wording / emphasis of both headlines appears curious to me: Celtic 'struggled' whilst Rangers 'preserved'.

    The weather conditions did not help, and neither game was pretty to watch.  Both matches were certainly 'scrappy' affairs. 

    But, the headlines could also have been;

     

    "Arfield goal clinches scrappy Rangers victory over Livingstone"

    "Celtic maintain 10-point gap above Rangers with Aberdeen win"

     

    I don't think that BBC Scotland is even aware of any subtle, subconscious bias in their Sports reporting.

    …and I don't think that BBC Scotland even cares… indecision


  2. LUGOSI 17th February 2020 at 11:10

    They can't both be accurate.

    Either there was a mini crime-spree two hours apart targetting wee, fat, baldy, speccy, elderly men or the time has been Lost In Translation.

    =============

    With all the CCTV on our streets – nevermind dashcams – Shirley they'll catch the, erm, culprits?

    Apparently, one of them should be quite easy to identify.

    He's a tall, incredibly thin man – who is believed to have been spotted recently, underneath a Lamborghini sports car in Glasgow.

    enlightened 


  3. So Craig Whyte published a book. Despite containing nothing new the sales of the book topped the charts. The following is a quote from Etims. 

    “Craig whyte has got his book out, which contains little that is new, and provides a neat deflection for anything else that might harm the larger brand.. He’s put himself forward a second time to play the fall guy…”

    The fall guy for whom one can’t help wonder?

     

     


  4. So Mr Gerrard is watching the situation regarding possible title stripping of Man City for financial jiggery pokery. Didn't you get the memo Steven ?


  5.  
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51528427 

    Manchester City V UEFA and the Omer Riza case. 

    “The ECHR said that, in terms of a fair trial process, having a disciplinary body that also appoints the panellists who carry out the decision-making means there isn’t sufficient distance between the two.”

     

    Who chose the panellists on Lord Nimmo Smith?

       


  6. It just seems like yesterday when everybody and their dog, reckoned that LNS came up with the answers that the Hampden gurus wanted.  Surely not?   Well it seems the European Court of Human Rights thinks that in similar circumstances that is exactly what might happen!

    Especially when evidence, witnesses and timelines are provided by the disciplinary body’s cohorts.
    What’s a panellist to do? Ask Questions? No thanks. We can only deal with what is front of us.


  7. I remember mentioning on here a couple of years ago, Judge John Deed would not settle for critical evidence being withheld at a trial, especially when it was public knowledge.  Why Nimmo Smith or one of the other panellists did not ask further questions about the wee tax case is shameful.  The timeline was doctored and they knew it fine well. To treat it the same as the big tax case was a falsehood from my POV.

    I wouldn’t let Nimmo Smith preside over a shoplifter’s trial if he were still ‘working’.


  8. tony 17th February 2020 at 13:00

    Timtim He did but he thought it was a film about an animated fish

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    :groan:

    tony, sorry but that's a straight red! 

     

    WRT the Man City situation. 

    On the face of it, I wouldn't be surprised if City have the ban reduced to 1 season.

    [Both sides 'win'.]

    But, the whole idea that UEFA can hold any other organisation / team accountable for improper conduct is just laughable.

    City will have access to the best / most expensive legal teams to keep UEFA busy forever.

    And, if the ban is imposed then what to do about PSG, Real, etc?

     

    There do seem to be a few parallels here with our very own Scottish footy.

    Since 2012 the 'normal' footy fans [i.e. us indecision ] have wanted 'sporting integrity' to prevail – but we have all witnessed how Hampden bypassed its own rules to ensure that business and money trumped all.

    Yet now, we have UEFA trying to ensure Financial Fair Play – via a 'more level' spending playing field – by trying to control business and money within European football.

    It's all messed up!


  9. jimbo @14:51

    Indeed.
    The shoplifter would have been acquitted immediately.
    The Bryson Principle would have clearly shown that, if asked to pay at the time of the 'transaction' then the shoplifter would undoubtedly have done so, therefore no real 'goods acquisition' advantage had accrued.


  10. Strangely there was no mention of Man City being fined €30 million, being banned from UEFA tournaments for 2 years and potentially losing EPL titles won through contravening FFP on ClydeSSB this evening. It’s a real mystery so it is


    • I regretfully give you this
    • Julie Candy <julie.candy@hes.scot>

      To:john clark

      17 Feb at 12:48

      Dear Mr Clark

      Thank you for your email.

      I’m sorry for not responding sooner.

      We considered your request, but remain of the view that we will not make any amendments to the listed building record. We have nothing further to add beyond our original email to you of 24 December 2019.

      Best wishes

      J.Candy

      Historic Environment Scotland – Scottish Charity No. SC045925
      Registered office: Longmore House, Salisbury Place, Edinburgh, EH9 1SH
       

      and I even more regretfully give you this:

      •  
      •  

    • john clark 

      To:Julie Candy

      17 Feb at 20:48

      Dear Dr Candy,

      Thank you for your reply.

      I note that you remain intransigent, and in that intransigence are prepared to let a clear factual error remain to mislead persons who might regard the HES website as a factually honest site which can be relied upon generally. 

      I regret to say that I believe that that does not say an awful lot  for standards of professional integrity in the HES or for the rigorous care for truth that  might reasonably  be expected  of a public body.

      I certainly shall view anything emanating from HES in the future with  distrust as to its accuracy as to facts and its attitude to Truth.

      Yours sincerely,

      John Clark


  11. Can I suggest that we refrain from comparing whatever it is that Manchester City did to breach FFP regulations with Rangers use of EBTs. I believe that the money Man City used to finance their squad was actually from a legitimate source, that is, the club's owners own money, while Rangers used money that was not from a legitimate source, and wasn't their own money, belonging to HMRC who were unaware that it had been withheld from them. Obviously using your own money to finance your own football club to give your club an unfair advantage is far worse than using money that should have been paid to HMRC to give your club a similarly unfair advantage. And I bet Manchester City didn't even have the decency to deliberately misregister their players to hide the unfairness of their advantage.

    So please give the SFA and the SMSM a break (Rangers don't need that break because they're not around anymore) and don't mention the war (oops, sorry, wrong comedywink)

    As has been said on many an occasion, if you're going to lie, lie big, and similarly, if you are going to cheat, cheat big, as you've got more chance of getting away with it in both cases. And didn't Rangers* prove that to be true by both lying and cheating hugely!

    *Rangers 'got away with it' right up to the moment the club fell into stasis while awaiting liquidation.


  12. easyJambo 16th February 2020 at 18:30
    Whyte became aware that Rangers was for sale around October 2009
    ………………….
    John Clark 16th February 2020 at 23:12
    ……………………..
    Sorry for the late reply.
    Ellis. I took Craig whyte to meet SDM in the south of France and that’s when talks began.
    ……………….
    A couple of things to read from the Time.
    https://twitter.com/ClusterOne2/status/1229520140439519232/photo/1
    https://twitter.com/ClusterOne2/status/1229521021524414464/photo/1


  13. Allyjambo 17th February 2020 at 21:24

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    Can I suggest we compare Manchester City to this Rangers, rather than the last one. That was just out and out fraud, not breaking football's rules.

    This Rangers have spent more than they were earning in every year of their existence. With owners, directors and their associates putting in money to make up the difference and keep the business trading.

    This season for example, they spent about £10m on players (Kent and Helander) whilst at the same time predicting a shortfall for the season of a similar amount. 

    A more blatant example of spending money the club isn't making, in breach of Financial Fair Play, to buy "success" would be more difficult to imagine.  


  14. Cluster One 17th February 2020 at 21:41

    A couple of things to read from the Time.

    ==========================

    Both articles appear to back up Whyte's account in his book of how he got involved in the deal.


  15. john clark

    To:Julie Candy

    17 Feb at 20:48

    Dear Dr Candy,

    ===============

    Good for you JC.

    You are right and she is wrong.

    …and nobody needs a PhD to come to that conclusion either…


  16. Mr Gerrard has opened a can of worms , I did consider it just to be the latest squirrel but on reflection I will put it down to his desire to achieve a league title by any means possible . It has though rubbed salt into an open wound . A reminder that Charles Green "bought those titles" , the question is who did he buy them from ? and what club* now has no titles as a result ? (thanks to @rightupya on twitter for pointing that out) What's worse is that even after the Supreme Court ruling the SFA refuse to asterisk them . The rewriting of history is they didn't die and all honours are rightfully theirs . The reality is those titles were won through cheating and are claimed by a different entity as their own . Gerrard and Rangers* are very well suited . 


  17. Homunculus 17th February 2020 at 21:48 Allyjambo 17th February 2020 at 21:24 =================================== Can I suggest we compare Manchester City to this Rangers, rather than the last one. That was just out and out fraud, not breaking football's rules. This Rangers have spent more than they were earning in every year of their existence. With owners, directors and their associates putting in money to make up the difference and keep the business trading. This season for example, they spent about £10m on players (Kent and Helander) whilst at the same time predicting a shortfall for the season of a similar amount. A more blatant example of spending money the club isn't making, in breach of Financial Fair Play, to buy "success" would be more difficult to imagine.

    _______________

    You can, of course, suggest this, and it would be an excellent suggestion.

    I was obviously trying to be sarcastic in my previous post and not really suggesting we don't compare the two cases, though I think the comparison should be made more with regard to the way the authorities (UEFA versus SFA) handle financial chicanery/cheating than the actual offences, themselves. The overall level of cheating was clearly far greater in Rangers case than City's despite the disparity in the millions involved. We must wait to see what action the FA take, too, before a complete comparison can be made, and I doubt they'll act until after the UEFA driven action is done and dusted.


  18. Timtim 17th February 2020 at 22:28 Mr Gerrard has opened a can of worms , I did consider it just to be the latest squirrel but on reflection I will put it down to his desire to achieve a league title by any means possible . It has though rubbed salt into an open wound . A reminder that Charles Green "bought those titles" , the question is who did he buy them from ? and what club* now has no titles as a result ? (thanks to @rightupya on twitter for pointing that out) What's worse is that even after the Supreme Court ruling the SFA refuse to asterisk them . The rewriting of history is they didn't die and all honours are rightfully theirs . The reality is those titles were won through cheating and are claimed by a different entity as their own . Gerrard and Rangers* are very well suited .

    ________________________

    A very good point, TT. As I've said before, if the 'same club' dreamers were right, why on earth did TRFC have to 'buy' the titles/history of a club they claimed to be one and the same with?

    There's more than a hint of some sort of deception should someone, or company, ever suggest he/it has bought an asset, tangible or not, from himself/itself.

    _____________________


  19. Allyjambo 17th February 2020 at 22:49

    '..There's more than a hint of some sort of deception should someone, or company, ever suggest he/it has bought an asset, tangible or not, from himself/itself.'

    ____________

    Yes, there is complete absurdity in the attempt to deceive, Aj!broken heart

    I don't know whether I was more offended by the dirty cheating of hubristic SDM over so many years or by the suggestion by the SFA that a new club they had so newly admitted into Scottish Football was one and the same club from which they had to whip away its SFA membership when it lost its share in the SPL through the insolvency event of 'Liquidation'.

    At a pinch, I could see and understand where a panicky SDM had been coming from as the kind of businessman that is that kind of businessman;

    but when it comes to the SFA trying to kid us all that the new club that they themselves had to newly admit is somehow the identical club as the club from which they had to take away membership of the SFA, that really set new standards (infinitely worse and more despicable than those of SDM) of betrayal of trust , betrayal of Sport, and betrayal of Truth.

    And that the liars should have thought we would roll over and accept such an absurdity  is beyond belief, and insulting in the extreme.

     

     


  20. One of the most desperate acts to justify what was happening then (and now) was the media resorting to mocking the term "sporting integrity " as if it was something we shouldn't aspire to . It was almost as if those who were demanding that were a burden to the progress of our sport.

    the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles that you refuse to change

    Personally I think without those principles then there is little point , without those principles the game is dishonest and immoral. When people like Chic Young and James Traynor were mocking "sporting integrity" they were really just exposing themselves as part of the corrupt cabal that have poisoned our sport for years . I know it can get boring repeating ourselves over many of the same issues but our silence is what they crave most. The truth will only out if we keep telling it how it is.


  21. Homunculus 17th February 2020 at 21:48

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    The predicted £10m shortfall at Ibrox this season was in their last accounts. Since then there has been no share issue, and no news of a funds injection. There has been no significant player sale. So how do they get to the end of the season? They are not a listed company, but would they still have to report somewhere which is publicly readable if a loan is taken out, or funding is obtained from another source?  


  22. “Going for history making records, world class names under career threatening pressure, brakes being cut, club officials beaten up. Fake news translations. Sky reported to OFCOM. Reporters censured. Fans up to high Doh! It’s magnificent. Tune in everyone. This is Gangs of NY.”

    The above is from a Roger Mitchell tweet. I assume he’s going for a humorous take on recent events.  


  23. Now finished the CW book. Like previous comments not a lot new. Suspect legal review has removed much we would have liked to read about. (Despite that review I spotted a number of typos though!)

    Talking about the SFA trying to fine him :

    "..we went to court and said we would call Stewart Regan and others as witnesses.Their response was to walk away."

    EBTs (and blind eyes) :

    "They were complete clowns. They had a lot to say about me at the time., but did they say anything about the EBT case? A club effectively cheated the game for years and no sanctions were taken against any of the individuals involved……but many of the guys who were there when the problem started are still there – yet still the SFA do nothing about that."

    Further on cheating and titles (and OC/NC) :

    "…Rangers cheated for years under David Murray and the previous board. I have no love for the tax authorities, but there should be a level playing field in sport and Rangers did not adhere to that by using the EBT scheme to sign players they would otherwise not have been able to bring to the club. That was unfair on the other teams…..I can understand fans of other clubs being aggrieved that the new business retains the titles of the old business. I'm not sure that is a valid claim."

    And why the SFA behaved as they did…

    "The SFA and the league want a strong Rangers. It is part of their selling point when they are trying to get sponsors that they need to have these two big clubs that are well supported."

    Scottish Football needs a strong Arbroath.


  24. redlichtie 18th February 2020 at 10:40

    At least we can see that Whyte used the best sources of research for his book: SFM, RTC, PMGB, the Clumpany, at the very least. But as I said previously, at least he's putting these truths out into the mainstream, hopefully enlightening a few who remain (wilfully?) unaware of the truth of cheating and death. And aware, now, that they have been lied to.


  25. Over on Jambos Kickback there's a fresh thread on Michael Stewart's continued suspension by the BBC and someone posted how it was alright for Stewart to slaughter on air Craig Levein, a man he was known to have personal grievances with, and Austin McPhee. So, what are these 'guidelines' he's supposedly crossed? Have they only recently been put in place, and at whose behest?

    Of course, as well as possibly ending Stewart's media career, the BBC have sent out yet another message to their 'journalists' and presenters that 'Rangers' and it's allies are not to be messed* with.

    *'Messed with' as in 'exposed to the truth'.


  26. upthehoops 18th February 2020 at 07:12

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    There was a lot of talk re "major investment" in January. Alex Rae was the main cheerleader for that. 

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alex-rae-rangers-investment-claim-20940333

    He said on Clyde 1's Superscoreboard: "Now it is my understanding at the turn of the year there will be another share issue done, which will provide considerable money.

    "And there will be major investment coming into Rangers."

    Host Gordon Duncan probed Rae, saying: "We have heard this stuff quite a lot though, haven't we?"

    Rae added: "I've heard it from a very high source in Ibrox so I would prefer to believe that instead of anybody from Twitter."

    ==============================

    From what I can see no such thing has happened, there were no significant sales of player registrations, they are taking Elite to Court in order to get c£2.5m they claimed to be owed. Cash must be very tight (for a business which admits to operate on a cash basis). 

    The business is simply not viable without continuing to break the Financial Fair Play rules. The question is, for how much longer will people be willing to throw good money after bad. 


  27. Allyjambo 18th February 2020 at 11:16

    They dropped Michael Stewart, one of the best and most honest football pundits Scotland has seen for years, and replaced him on Sportscene with Malky MacKay.

    Perhaps Michael should have been a racist, sexist, anti-semitic homophobe, rather than describing a bully as a bully. He has clearly been poorly advised.


  28. 18,000 + have now signed the petition to have Michael Stewart reinstated at the BBC.

    Jimbo posted the link on page 5.


  29. easyJambo 17th February 2020 at 00:54

    “I wish I had retained a copy of all the documents posted by Charlotte Fakes. I did keep a few that I thought might be important down the line, but it’s an incomplete record of events.”

    I have a cache on the hard drive retained from my last computer but they aren’t immediately accessible. I recalled from memory (eventually) the Andrew Ellis/Chris Akers production strapline but the tweet in question said little more.

    It would however appear that what you have lost on the swings you have gained on the roundabout since you have faithfully played out a thread through the labyrinthine perambulations of this saga which provides this blog and its affiliates with an indelible corporate memory of events.

    My long absence from the blog leaves huge gaps in my knowledge that your response reveals. 

    At the time Charlotte Fakeovers first emerged much conjecture was bandied concerning motives. I was going to ask you for a brief summary of CharlotteFakes motives but realised I should be doing my own research based on the information you have provided.

    I stumbled across this document at the very threshold of my inquiries. I suspect it is not particularly significant but I haven’t sufficient knowledge to make that judgement. It may however be found interesting by you.

    https://www.aidanearley.org/tortious-interference-report/


  30. Castofthousands@14.19

    I followed the link on your post. This caught my eye on page five. 

    The plan was to provide £3m of the working capital to Rangers secured by a robust first charge over the almost £100m of audited gross assets owned by the Club and by assignment of the Lloyds debenture to the pension fund, providing that the interest and bullet payment eliminated the pension deficit.


  31. Castofthousands 18th February 2020 at 14:19

    I stumbled across this document at the very threshold of my inquiries. I suspect it is not particularly significant but I haven’t sufficient knowledge to make that judgement. It may however be found interesting by you.

    https://www.aidanearley.org/tortious-interference-report/

    ====================================

    I kept an eye on the Aidan Earley website when he first launched it, so I was aware of the "tortious interference" allegations from some time ago. I haven't kept up to date with it for the last 18 months or so.

    The part that I was interested in was the claim that Worthington had over the Oldco.  That was settled "out of court" by a payment by BDO of £962,500 around the middle of last year.


  32. I see RTC on Twitter  with information against  Andrew Dickson and SKY with his input to Morelos interview. 


  33. valentinesclown 18th February 2020 at 18:05

    I see RTC on Twitter  with information against  Andrew Dickson and SKY with his input to Morelos interview. 

    ================================

    Dickson has responded to RTC by denying any involvement whatsoever.


  34. tony 18th February 2020 at 18:25

    easyJambo

    Today?? 

    ===========================

    Yes 25 mins ago.  Then he has a go at RTC, as an anonymous blogger trying to stir up some hate. 

    Andrew Dickson@mrandrewdickson25m

    No, I wasn’t. In any way whatsoever. So tough luck with that

    Andrew Dickson@mrandrewdickson5m

    Ironic that as my tweet appealing for better regulation on social media to curb faceless abuse hits 25k likes – thus showing huge appetite for the idea – an anonymous blogger tries to get some hate going my way. Couldn’t make it up. Folk here should be identifiable & accountable.


  35. I note this:  https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2020/donalda-mackinnon

    "BBC Scotland Director Donalda MacKinnon is to stand down as the corporation's Scottish leader after four years in the role and 33 years with the broadcaster"

    And I note this 

    "..Donalda MacKinnon says: "Reflecting back on all that we have achieved, .."

    Whatever else she 'achieved, as BBC Scotland Director MacKinnon  continued the ban on any on-air discussion of the 5-Way Agreement,the Big Lie created by the SFA;and by so doing, allowed for the broadcasting and propagation of as wicked a lie as ever came from the lips of Josef Goebbels and the unjust punishment of such honest men as  did not toe the party line.

    As said in relation to the SMSM, what the feck would they do in really vital matters of Truth, if they allow untruths in the matter of a Sport not just to be left unquestioned and unchallenged but actively supported and propagated.

    We are well rid of any such a person in positions of influence in the BBC, that supposed bastion of Truth. 

    We can, of course, confidently predict that her successor will also be a puppet.


  36. easyJambo 18th February 2020 at 18:34

    ‘…Then he has a go at RTC, as an anonymous blogger trying to stir up some hate.’
    %%%%%%%%%%
    It is inconceivable that Dickson would not know that RTC is about as far removed from being just ‘an anonymous blogger’ as it is possible to be(well, apart from being anonymous!)

    If there had been SMSM people who had not sold their souls for a mess of succulent lamb and SDM’s favour, but had done what journalists are supposed to do-ask the kind of questions asked by RTC-then , as CW himself says, RFC of 1872 might not have died: Murray would have been called to order early enough, and the cheating EBT years might not have happened.

    And Scottish Football would have benefited by not having to perjure itself and throw integrity to the wind. ( And what the devil is happening at Fir Park as I write?)

     


  37. Phil’s latest blog is stating that TRFC “HAD” to play the postponed game ASAP, as in: playing on the more reasonable / less stormy Monday night was simply not an option – for Ibrox financial reasons.

    Which suggests that the MD Robertson is micromanaging cashflow – to the penny, by the day – and with no wiggle room to speak of.

    Which is a rather risky way to manage any business… to state the bleedin’ obvious.

    TRFC is currently just one ‘unplanned event’ away from tipping into the abyss, it would seem…?

    Which is nice.  broken heart 


  38. tony 18th February 2020 at 20:59 

    John Clark I don't care about the puppet, I want to know who's pulling their strings

    =================

    tony, in the interests of puppetry pedantry…

    I'll see your puppet [with strings] – and raise you a marionette.  enlightened

    [And I'm now going to leave you all in peace: off to bed with a stinking cold/coronavirus.  I may be sometime…  indecision ]


  39. StevieBC 18th February 2020 at 21:23
    Looking at the pictures of the game it was not very full of spectators, as season tickets have already been paid just how many bought a ticket for the game? i can’t see too much cash being generated for this rescheduled game. If cash is that tight things must be really bad.


  40. Castofthousands 18th February 2020 at 14:19

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    easyJambo 17th February 2020 at 00:54

    “I wish I had retained a copy of all the documents posted by Charlotte Fakes.
    ………………..
    I had all of Charlotte Fakes on an external hard drive, and it died on me (Get an external hard drive they said, put all your things on it and save it they said, and then the thing died on me)


  41. CO, agreed: there couldn't have been many match day ticket sales – and you can only sell so many pies & Bovril, programmes, etc.

    And if only for fans' safety, the game should have been played on the Monday night.

    Mibbees in time we'll get the full story?

    [Tablet getting switched off now.]


  42. @C1

    I don't think the cash generated on the night at the turnstile was the crucial aspect although sales of pies and programmes would help but more the payment of the ST money that is only released on a game by game basis. Money must have been needed on Monday morning . Sales from the Braga game had by then already been collected and probably spent . We can only speculate what the cash was for , transfer instalment would seem most likely as there is no mention (so far) of the Close loan being settled and February pay date is still 10 days away . I cannot see how they can see out the season if they are struggling right now . If either Ashley or Close come looking for their cash the lights will be going out.


  43. easyJambo 18th February 2020 at 16:27
    The part that I was interested in was the claim that Worthington had over the Oldco. That was settled “out of court” by a payment by BDO of £962,500 around the middle of last year.
    …………………
    https://twitter.com/ClusterOne2/status/1229895691792736258/photo/1
    ……………….
    From this article Worthington Group in which whyte had a small stake, had been considering making a secured loan of £2.9 million to the club before it entered administration.
    Was this the end result?….. the claim that Worthington had over the Oldco. That was settled “out of court” by a payment by BDO of £962,500 around the middle of last year.


  44. Timtim 18th February 2020 at 22:29
    I don’t think the cash generated on the night at the turnstile was the crucial aspect although sales of pies and programmes would help but more the payment of the ST money that is only released on a game by game basis.
    …………………
    Thanks for the clarification.


  45. Cluster One

    Had same problem with hdd, bought some software and recovered 13,000 photos and videos from holidays past

     


  46. Cluster One 18th February 2020 at 22:36

    https://twitter.com/ClusterOne2/status/1229895691792736258/photo/1
    ……………….
    From this article Worthington Group in which whyte had a small stake, had been considering making a secured loan of £2.9 million to the club before it entered administration.
    Was this the end result?….. the claim that Worthington had over the Oldco. That was settled “out of court” by a payment by BDO of £962,500 around the middle of last year.

    =============================

    The pension fund got all their cash back from funds still held in the Collyer Bristow client account.

    The BDO settlement was regarding that claim that Wavetower (TRFCG) held a floating charge over the assets of the Oldco.  The figure claimed varied enormously from £18m down to £2m or so.  I think that BDO initially argued that the claim was worthless, as any money that RFC plc owned Wavetower was offset by the Ticketus cash that belonged to the club, but £16m of which was "loaned" to Wavetower to pay off the club's debt to Lloyds. 

    In the end, BDO decided that it would make more sense to reach a settlement than try to argue the case through the courts with significant legal costs involved..


  47. From the Guardian .

    Knowledge archive

    “Is it true that Falkirk (or another Scottish side) were once shipwrecked on the way to a game?” wondered Dan Palmer in 2012.

    The side who took a dip in the briny deep came from further down the Firth of Forth. Kirkcaldy’s Raith Rovers were taking in the sunnier climbs of the Canary Islands; in the summer of 1923 they boarded the Highland Loch, which was calling in at the Canaries en route to Buenos Aires with its cargo of passengers and, apparently, chilled meat.

    The Stark’s Park party were off the coast of Galicia, negotiating Cape Finisterre, in violent weather when the ship ran aground. The players and other passengers were roused from their beds, lifeboats were manned and the group was towed to Villagarcia by local fishermen.

    The following day a passing liner picked up the 20-strong squad and were, according to player Tom Jennings, invited to eat at the captain’s table because of their chivalrous behaviour during the rain-swept abandoning of the Highland Loch. A few days later they were safely deposited at their destination – and the traumatic journey did not seem to adversely effect the players. They won all four games, although history does not report another European adventure in 1924.


  48. paddy malarkey 19th February 2020 at 13:19

    Raith had their most memorable, on field, European adventure at the Munich Olympic stadium in 1995, with the scoreboard at half time reading 0-1. 

    Image result for raith rovers bayern munich scoreboard


  49. Timtim 18th February 2020 at 22:29
    I don’t think the cash generated on the night at the turnstile was the crucial aspect although sales of pies and programmes would help but more the payment of the ST money that is only released on a game by game basis.

    =============================

    At least they should have the cash available to pay their £15,000 fine for failing to control their players and coaching staff in the recent games against Hibs and Celtic.

    Edit: Further good news for TRFC is that £5,000 of the fine is suspended.


  50. easyJambo 19th February 2020 at 15:13

    '…….Further good news for TRFC is that £5,000 of the fine is suspended.

    _____________

    Have we any idea  what 'Charge 1-proved under deletion' may mean?

    From the SFA website ( which incidentally still seems to show Regan as CEO!):

    "Principal hearing date: Tuesday 18 February 2020

    Outcome:

    Charge 1 – Proved under deletion

    Sanction – £5000 fine, £3000 immediate and £2000 suspended until End of Season 2019/20 ….."

    And is 'suspension'' conditional on good behaviour for the rest of the season?

    Or was there a plea that "we can only manage £10 000 of the £15 000 at the moment. Gi'e us some time to pay the rest, eh? "broken heart

     

     


  51. "Suppose it’s proved another accused had been involved in the conspiracy, but not in all the sub-heads, you would find him guilty under deletion of the sub-heads he wasn’t involved in".

    found this in the Jury Manual from June 2017 !

    It does suggest that some of the charges – on the first count i.e. the Hibs game – were deleted and Sevco were found guilty on the charges which were not deleted.  Perhaps the SFA will issue a commentary to this judgement, explaining what went on.

    I remain extremely disappointed that neither Kent nor Morelos have been specifically disciplined for their behaviour – the message may be that this is quite acceptable to the SFA ?

     


  52. Try, if you can, to find film of James Keatings’ second yellow card for simulation in the semi final of the Lower League Cup Thingy (What’s it called? Challenge Cup?).

    It, of course, means he suspended for the final.

    Not only should he never have been booked, he’s now lost his appeal.

    What on earth were a) The match officials & b) The appeals panel thinking of………oh wait a minute I’ve just remembered who they were playing!

     

    HS

     


  53. Homunculus 19th February 2020 at 17:40

    This is going to be interesting, Rangers are looking for new retail partners for 20/21…

    ========

    Well, it seems that RIFC/TRFC has alienated Hummel and it would appear that the next Ibrox kit supplier will be from an even lower league; Bukta, Le Coq Sportif, Kappa, Patrick, Admiral, …Winfield…?

    Don't even know if those brands still exist – but Winfield definitely died with Woolworths! 

    But, the serious point is this;

    TRFC is highly unlikely – IMO – to get a top tier kit deal from e.g. Adidas, Nike, Puma.

    It could be argued that the brand is now viewed as even less desirable by kit manufacturers,

    …and there is currently a £16M Brand valuation included in the RIFC Balance Sheet, [see Note 10 in the accounts to 30/06/19].

    There was no Impairment Charge to the Brand valuation last year, (i.e. RIFC believed their brand was still as marketable for any business deals / partnerships, etc.]

    On the face of it, an even lower-end kit supplier deal would indicate (further) impairment of the Brand, i.e. that £16M on the B/S could be devalued…with a corresponding hit to the P&L. 

    Might not be a huge charge, [on paper], but it would inflate the annual, Ibrox loss figure even more… 


  54. Homunculus@17.40

    Interesting choice of words in the press release. “Enter the market for kit” Wonderful sophistry. What kit manufacturer would want to hitch their wagon to *Rangers cart horse? Fraught with difficulties. As the club has discovered, you can’t sell the jerseys twice.

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